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Special Logistics: (second) interview with Noel Casler

Former talent specialist "Celebrity Apprentice" tells about everything – from Nixon, through Michael Jackson, the Atlantic City mobsters, to addiction and recovery, and throws on Donald, Ivanka and Junior.

Greg Olear Pre-Accessibility

Mine May 1 interview with Noel Casler, comedian and talent specialist who worked on Celebrity Apprentice for six seasons is by far the most popular entry on PREVAIL. I've been looking forward to asking him more questions always since. He was kind adequate to give me that chance.

Below is simply a second, much longer session of questions and answers with a loud Trump antagonist and mandatory Twitter follow-up:

GO: We've been talking mostly about the Trump household and the unusual things you've seen in Celebrity Apprentice. I'd like to start with the minute and present a broader context. I want to hear about your background. From what I've learned from your tweets and various appearances on the show, you're from Manhattan and you went to prep school there. Can you tell us a small more about your early life? What did your parents do, where you went to school? You know, that stuff with David Copperfield, like Holden Caulfield.

It's good to talk to you again, Greg. Actually, I'm not from Manhattan. I went to advanced school in Westchester region in the late 1980s. I quit prep school and went to a large public school that reminded me of something from John Hughes' movie.

Go: Same thing! large public advanced school FTW!

NC: Many of my friends went to private school, and I remember Bill Barr, who went to Horace Mann, and his father, who went to Dalton, and then to Hackley School, where they called him "Chester molest". My parents were hippies, if that's what you might call it, and I spent my early childhood outside Washington, DC, and I spent summers at my father's in Woodstock. We besides went to Ireland, where my father's grandpa led the household after arguing with Kissinger about the Cambodia bombing.

GO: Wait—you mean the fight in his own head, or the real fight with the real Kissinger, like live?

NC: My grandfather, Harry S. Casler, was a lifelong abroad service individual and for most of his career associated with Nixon. My maternal grandpa was besides in the NSA; both served in a naval intelligence during planet War II. The best household anecdote of my father's grandfather, who could practically enter the Oval Office as his government degree and the evidence was akin to a five-star general: he was having Thanksgiving dinner with General Westmoreland, and my grandparents visited Nixon in Cherry Hill, fresh Jersey for cocktails and another things. Anyway, the best communicative is erstwhile Nixon was vice president, my grandpa accompanied him to Venezuela right after the US supported the coup. erstwhile they left this morning, he told Nixon that they should avoid driving through Caracas and choose a more circular way to the airport, given the tensions. Nixon, in his arrogance, insisted that they drive through the city in a presidential limo — and this celebrated tape with a car surrounding the protesters pushing him sideways.

My grandpa sat in the back with Dick and said, "You boy of a bitch! Anyway, the final conflict active illegal bombing, and my grandpa was 1 of the intelligence officers in the Dresden bombers, telling them where to drop the ammunition to trigger a cyclone of fire. That's it. started Your career. The Vietnam War was besides intense, and Nixon at the end listened only to Kissinger and cared only for his political fate, as we know. It never ends well.

That's impressive. I had no idea. If I had been active with Nixon all this time, I would have left the country, too.

NC: Both my parents were "Army Brats", if you can call it that, and spent their childhood abroad. They met as freshman students at a tiny liberal arts college in Maryland, and I was born erstwhile they were 19 and named her after bassist Jimi Hendrix. From this point on, it was just weirder, and I'm not gonna go any further. LOL.

GO: surely better than Mitch Mitchell Casler. I assumed you were named after other Noel C.'s comic genius, Noel Coward, who said, "Television is not to be seen, just to appear in." It's a clumsy passage, but it's hard. Your work in the manufacture is very specific. Can you tell a small more about your professional experience, the celebrities you worked for, what this occupation is, and so on?

NC: For 25 years I was practically a talent specialist on live television. It's a very circumstantial case, which sounds simple, but it can get complicated quickly. I began my career on tv in 1993 with the Kennedy Center Honors award; this program is run by the "A-Team" consisting of a tv crew and production staff. Many of the same people who brought you this amazing DNC convention a fewer weeks ago are the people I've worked with all my career. erstwhile you're in that very tiny niche, most people don't leave. I have worked on everything – since the Grammy and Tony Awards, through the Super Bowl Halftime Show, VMAs, stone and rotation Hall of Fame, Daytime Emmy etc. I worked and escorted everyone – from Michael Jackson, through Mr. Rodgers, Madonna, to Mavis Staples. quite a few Britney Spears and Boy Band stuff in the 1990s for MTV. Jimmy Carter to Rudy Giuliani to Aretha Franklin. Bruce Springsteen, Bono, Elton John, Elvis Costello, attended celebrations commemorating September 11, the inauguration of president Obama, the Good Will Games, the 12/12 Benefit Games after Hurricane Sandy. More programs on VH1 and live than I would like to remember at this point, but work is always fundamentally the same. "You escort" artists and make certain they scope their point live and are handed to the DJA phase manager in due time during live broadcast. It sounds simple, but there are a million moving elements, and your occupation is to be kind of a buffer between the artist's manager and the show's producers.

GO: Nothing in escorting Michael Jackson, Madonna or Britney Spears anywhere sounds simple. Although I'd bet Fred Rogers and Bruce Springsteen were more of a walk with butter.

NC: There's quite a few diplomacy and etiquette here, and if anything goes wrong, you're gonna be liable for both sides. That's part of the job, too. Madonna is definitely not for amateurs, and I have all Britney's stories, haha. Bruce is the top of my business. MJ was not my taste and I quit the last occupation I had with him, "Jackson Reunion" at MSG. A fewer days earlier I was his escort to the VMA and it was besides much for me, so I gave up the reunion and went to the compartment I had at Woodstock at the time. In a way, I owe Michael, due to the fact that if I took this job, which was September 10, 2001, I would be in the center of September 11. By the way, seemingly MJ, Marlon Brando, and Liza Minnelli, who all participated in a peculiar program at MSG, rented a car and drove across the country days after the attack. Can you imagine you're stopping somewhere in Kansas for refueling and seeing the crew pull up in a rental car?

GO: It's like a poisoned version of 1 of those Bogart posters, James Dean and Marilyn Monroe, that hang in bars. I wonder which 1 was driving? But back to talent management. Sounds like being a referee in baseball: you only announcement it erstwhile it breaks something.

NC: Exactly. Nevertheless, the same people like me are repeatedly employed by talent managers due to the fact that they know that these experiences and circumstantial skills request to be lived and that cannot be learned. My specialty was the alleged "special logistical talent" due to the fact that I was 1 of the most experienced in the industry.

GO: This. There's euphemism. It's family, Noel! Richard Nixon was definitely "special logistics"!

NC: I besides toured with stone bands as tour manager, being the consequence of a relation that I established, working with bands on live TV. But that's a full different story. Actually, it was my responsibility that CSN — the last band I toured with in 2015 — broke up.

GO: Guy named after bassist Jimi should touring with stone bands. The first regulation of talent management is that they are not mentioned. 1 of the apparent requirements for working with talent is silence on their flaws. Why did you decide to say something about the Trumps?

NC: I never broke that regulation until I spoke about Trump, by the way, and I saw any crazy things. Trump is now the most dangerous individual in the world. I spoke to him due to the fact that the guy I saw and everyone worked with erstwhile I got back to Miss Universe was the biggest narcissist and drug addict I always met — and I met a fewer of them.

GO: He's the only addict whose drugs fired from his nose during a press conference as president of the United States, so that's something.

NC: Trump is on a different level. It's like he exists to destruct something. He enters all area and sees only what he can take from any minute for himself—whether it's sexual humiliation of his daughter or groping women he met moments earlier. He's a dangerous psychopath, period, and I believe he would destruct this country to defend his ego and his fragile and hurt self-esteem. Adding to this decade of abuse of stimulants, you have a toxic zeal that would make Hannibal Lecter blush.

GO: Lecter at least was a gentleman and a man of culture.

NC: I'm not kidding: underneath Trump's surface is much darker than most people imagine.

GO: It began to spill out, these flashes of his ugly, sadistic malice. The way he kept talking about mutilating refugees arriving in the country. You can see that erstwhile 1 of the women pisses him off at a press conference. Trump is simply a torturer, and we are a nation of abused spouses. I'm glad you spoke.

NC: I spoke due to the fact that the destiny of our country is at stake. We've long gone beyond things that erstwhile would have been unthinkable for the United States, and I'm far from being a subject in our history. Children in cages? Letting manufacture make environmental policies, fire signalers and scientists? It's crazy how much harm has been done in just a fewer years, and it'll take decades to dig it up.

GO: The harm is invaluable.

NC: any things may never be rebuilt. The cacti saguaro on the border are cut down to make area for a border wall, which was initially simply a mnemotechnic invented by coke addict Roger Stone and Sam Nunberg to aid Trump remember to be more racist at the early MAGA rallies. Most of these cacti are in this country a fewer 100 years longer than anyone named Trump. Not that how long you've been here is any decision to belong, but it's peculiarly ironic that he eliminates them to halt immigration, which is what makes our country special. Besides, this border wall is just a pretext to collect bribes from its contractors.

GO: This peculiar interception comes consecutive from George Bluth from Arrested Development. Which is both comic and bloodyCrazy.

NC: Trump does nothing without money for himself. That's his top precedence on all political decisions, and that's back to the time he worked in the fresh York mob.

GO: You mean his times of the Russian mafia, after David Bogatin became curious in Trump Tower in the mid-1980s and until today, did the Italian mafia times grow up as an annoying boy of frontman Genovese?

NC: I think I mean both. There is so much to discuss that we should someday delve into a longer format, but I will say 1 thing: Think about it erstwhile Trump entered Atlantic City and built these tacky casinos (one of them, Taj Mahal), directors mysteriously died in a rented helicopter, even though Trump had his own chopper fleet; he simply missed his flight on the day of the crash, killing his superiors who talked to the feds in the money laundering investigation. A fewer minutes after the start he crashed into pine jas with a tiny crack in the rotor.) So he built these casinos and cheated the contractors, the craftsmen, who fitted carpets, brass rails, etc. any of these guys never recovered their financial forces and committed suicide due to it. He'd sue them and pay them a penny, if at all. Think about how untouchable you should be to commit fraud and stiff performers in South Jersey and last to talk about it. Any of these guys could meet a guy who "painted houses" in a bar and give him an envelope full of cash for revenge. It never happened due to the fact that nobody wanted to take the job. Trump was above the law, even according to Cos Nostra standards. He's inactive above the law, but now Putin's protecting him, not Tony Salerno's Fats.

GO: I heard from another sources that, in real life, before Trump as president, Ivanka was a good individual — rather not like the rocking cylon of Fox News' fantasy she became. Right?

NC: The 100% fact that she is another person. "Nice" is not a word I would always attribute to her. Kind and refined, I'm sure. Vanky doesn't even have the same voice. Her real voice is about an octave lower; it can be heard in her early interviews in "modelling years" and during her performance in Conan's old show at NBC. This hesitating, hesitating voice on the "S" was created to trigger "skin feelings" in his father. I know; I've been her guardian for the past seasons Celebrity Apprentice.

I just realized that I am so utilized to the communicative "Donald wants to fuck Ivanka" that I don't even process it erstwhile I hear it, so I want to realize for a minute how unusual and disturbing it is to have specified a pervert in the White House.

NC: This is an amazing creepy, and there are virtually dozens of pictures that confirm this disturbing atmosphere. erstwhile I talk about how she gave her father a lap dance in Miss Teen USA, It's not a joke. Look at the image everyone saw sitting on his lap in Mar-a-Lago. Look into the eyes of another couples sitting next to them. They are terrified to the max — and so it should be. Besides, this photograph was most likely from 1996, and Vanky was about 15 years old. She explained that she was just playing with the band. Do you know who the band was that night? The Beach Boys! How many 15-year-old girls in 1996 were there, even though Mike Love was specified a dreamer that she couldn't aid dancing on Dad's lap?

GO: "We'll have fun, we'll have fun until her dad takes Ivanka..."I heard good opinions about Ivanka before the presidency, but nobody seems to have anything good to say about Junior. He seems like a spoiled small troll — a bad guy from the John Hughes movie that reminds you of your advanced school. The guy who checks the labels on the tie and shirt to make certain you're not wearing fakes. A guy who can't handle alcohol. What was he like before all this?

NC: Don Jr. — or Scrump, as I called it on CA: scrotum and Trump.

Go: Ha!

NC: I know it's rude, but if you met him, you'd see that's an accurate term. He's the kind of guy who would make the Dalai Lama want to punch him in the face. An openly racist, infinite claimable and arrogant, just as powerfully if not more addicted than his father. He's clearly going through a serious relapse. He was the kind of guy who, after he peed in the dorm room, said, "Do you know who my father is?" I met Martin Shkreli once, during the NBA All-Star Weekend in Toronto, another event I attended for about 13 years — NBA All-Star, is simply a gold standard in sports, by the way.

GO: Oh, I know. I'm a large NBA fan.

NC: Shkreli and I lived in the same hotel, and he is the only another man who immediately caused me the same strong reaction to the face itself. They could have been separated at birth, LOL.

GO: And Shkreli is in prison, where Junior goes! Nature has specified a balance.You said you were in recovery. How long? I don't mean to pry, but I'm curious about all the details you want to share.

NC: 15 years. I'm moving an active program, and it wasn't a simple line, so if you have any problems, go ahead. I was there. I don't talk about it in much detail, due to the fact that it's 1 of the rules of recovery. I do not want my political views to interfere with individual seeking help, but I am happy to share what has helped me, and I can say that there is hope, I am happy to share my experience with you. I'll say that erstwhile I point out Trump, his children, and any of his cabinet members, I don't do it to make moral judgement about active addiction. In my opinion, it's a disease, a intellectual obsession coupled with physical allergy. Active addiction is based on self-centered fear and resentment, and that's the last thing you want from a leader. They wouldn't let the pilot close the cockpit if he showed up at work looking like Trump at most press conferences. You think that sweat from the rain is natural? All that orange pancake makeup is expected to cover his mashed skin. This guy's actually a walking gin flower.

GO: You turned to Hillary and to warehouses PeopleBut the media mostly ignored you as a origin for Trump. What makes you think that?

NC: Actually, the HRC run contacted me. At that time, I attended the fresh Yorker Festival with Bruce Springsteen and Louis C.K. at Town Hall, the day they contacted me. I remember it like it was yesterday; I besides feel like it was a 100 years ago. We had a common colleague from the inauguration of president Obama. I talked to them and told them everything I knew, and they directed me to PeopleWho contacted me and said, "We'll do an article on Trump's past of sexual assault." It was about the same time Mark Burnett threatened to sue anyone who would talk from the times Apprentice. I contacted quite a few my fellow reporters. New York Times And I asked them to speak.

GO: Most of them did not have that truth.

NC: The general opinion was that Trump would not win anyway, so why harm his career? I kind of believed it, too, and I think HRC camp felt the same way. Many of my colleagues were from HRC Election Night at the Javits Center — it was expected to be a large organization and a live show. I remember getting backstage messages from woman Gaga or Katy Perry crammed in a chair and crying — everyone was shocked. I want I had done more before that night. Then I left the live broadcast and became a stand-uper to pass my information on to a wider public audience. Just so people know who they're dealing with. I realized that The Apprentice He truly gave many Americans a truly false thought of what a individual Trump was.

What was your first gathering with Donald John Trump?

NC: VMA in the 1990s, I think, were before I had experience with beauty contests or later — but I remember him getting out of the limousine at 51st St. at the door of the Radio City Music Hall carriage, where a red carpet was placed. I think Vanky was his partner. I remember him getting out and waving to the crowd, and I turned to a NYPD officer who was hired to defend the red carpet. He said, "Have you never met Trump before? This guy's the biggest catcher in fresh York. I was at his protection — this guy goes to clubs all night, partying and hitting on models."

GO: You live on the advanced East Side in Manhattan — a neighbor, as you say, with Larry Kudlow. This guy doesn't look good.

NC: Yes, Carnegie Hill. Larry looks truly worried. I hope he finds the aid he needs. This is the last individual you want to make economical policy now. Trust me. I wouldn't trust him with the proceeds from the pastry fair, let alone the economy of our country. His porters besides hated him, which always says a lot about a man, especially in fresh York.

GO: Have you always met Epstein?

NC: Yes, I saw Jeffrey and Ghislaine at many events in fresh York. His residence on E.71 Street is not far from the Russian consulate, which is no coincidence. He besides lived next to Howard Lutnick, which is besides convenient, and Jeffrey's brother mediated sales to Howard — readers may know him as head of Cantor Fitzgerald. Ghislaine spent time with Donald and Melania, and they were frequently guests of the old introduced to the stone and rotation Hall of Fame held in the Waldorf Astoria Ballroom. It's a large HBO show, but it utilized to be like a small fund-raiser, and wealthy fresh Yorkers bought tables. I have participated in many events like Angel Ball, which Ghislaine has besides participated in. Part of the disadvantage of these people is that spending money on charity events gives them appearances of respect and helps hide their wicked lifestyle.

GO: We hide in plain sight.

NC: I besides participated in the Victoria's Secret Runway Show, and Leslie Wexner was besides present. I think Jeffrey had already accepted the deal and was hiding in Palm Beach "taking his sentence." I'm certain he didn't think they'd catch him erstwhile he got back onstage a fewer years ago... I find that very interesting.

GO: You've been trying a lot lately to get Kellyanne Conway. Is it just what you read in the press, or do you have firsthand information about it?

NC: It's just what I see in her speeches and in the press. People rapidly suspected her erstwhile she announced she was leaving the White House. In my opinion, if you aid a man lock his children in cages, you're guilty for the remainder of your life. Speaking of books, I can't wait to read Anonymous. Blink, blink. good talking to you again, Greg.

Thanks for coming back!_______
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