Shock, anyone can make a mistake. It's the smallest place where votes were exchanged

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– I was shocked erstwhile I saw the header on the local news. I did not believe that it was about us – says the man from Wieniec close Brest Kujawski. It is 1 of the localities where irregularities were found in the electoral commission. The smallest of those where the court renumbered the votes and where the votes cast for presidential candidates were replaced. Everyone's in shock. People say it's just impossible. How could this happen? Nothing like this has always happened with us – we hear from the inhabitants.


Wienec in the municipality of Brest Kujawski was among 9 regional commissions where irregularities were found. And besides among the 7 committees in which the votes cast as presidential candidates were replaced.

As the National Prosecutor's Office handed over on 20 June, specified a replacement resulted in a "mistakeful acceptance that more votes in these circuits were received by Karol Nawrocki, while the recalculation of election cards by the court showed that this number of votes was received by Rafał Trzaskowski".

The communication lists the following peripheral electoral commissions in Kraków, Strzelce Opolskie, Minsk Mazowieckie, Oleśnie, Grudziądzu, Gdańsk. And in "Wieniec-Brześć Kujawski" right.

– Unfortunately for us we are seen in this combination – 1 of the inhabitants reluctantly admits.

Then he adds: – I would alternatively not be there. I'd alternatively that Wieniec happened another way. For example, we have a beautiful, picturesque Kronenberg Palace from the 19th century. Legend has it that erstwhile his wealthy owner fled, he buried the treasure in our neighborhood. And visitors, and locals have been searching for him so far and sweeping the forest. Search groups frequently come, you can see that they walk in the woods with metallic detectors. The palace is in renovation. It was expected to be a philharmonia. And we happened in Poland due to these elections.

Electoral forgery or a mistake? "Really? I'm in shock."


Wieniec is simply a village in Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodeship. It lies about halfway between Brest Kujawski and Włocławek. It's a independent village and a village. The largest village in the municipality of Brest Kujawski. It has about 2,000 inhabitants.

As we hear, the village is politically divided. Like all Poland. any had Nawrocki posters hung, others Trzaskowski, and others Braun.

Election irregularities have made them celebrated throughout the country, although it is heard more frequently that they have occurred in Brest Kujawski. The Oblast Election Commission No. 4 in Brest Kujawski, however, was located in the local simple School.

- Honestly? I was shocked erstwhile I saw the header on the local news. I just didn't believe it was us. First I thought it was Brest. Then I look: Circuit Commission No. 4 Wieniec. It was a large surprise. I don't remember anything like this happening before. Whether this is parliamentary or self-government elections, no of this has happened here. This is the first time – 1 of the villagers reacts.

A fewer kilometres from here is another village with a akin name – Wieniec-Zdrój.

– At first I thought possibly it was them. There is simply a sanatorium and almost 700 people voted on the basis of certificates. I thought possibly it was about that Wieniec. And it turns out it wasn't. Shock. Just a shock. This is not a pride for us, although we are not the ones calling the committee. These may be people from all over the region, we have no influence on which persons are reported," says a municipality resident.

Another: – It was a shock. It's an unpleasant situation. On a nationwide scale, Wieniec is most likely the smallest locality where specified irregularities occurred.

Shocking effects of vote conversion


Let us remind you that electoral protests are raging across the country. There are nearly 50,000 calls. The media thunders about serious violations detected, among others, in 2 committees in Bielsko-Biała and about badly counted. associate of PKW Ryszar Kalisz even spoke about election anomalies.

On 27 June, the ultimate Court planned 2 meetings. To date, he has besides decided on the calculation of electoral cards from 13 regional electoral commissions.

Wieniec, as the seat of the committee, was 1 of them.

The territory court in Włocławek counted the votes cast here last Wednesday. According to the committee's minutes, Karol Nawrocki won (466 votes), and Rafał Trzaskowski was second (331 votes). However, after the court's calculation of the cards, it was completely the opposite.

One of the inhabitants concludes this: – Rafał Trzaskowski won, and the votes were attributed to Karol Nawrocki. The numbers agree. They were just typed backwards.

"The effects of the conversion proved shocking" – reported local portal DDWloclawek.pl.

How did this happen?


- Yeah. How could it have come to this? That's the question everyone asks themselves. We're all reasoning about it. And, unfortunately, we don't know. This is outrageous. This should not be the case – 1 of our listeners responds.

As he claims, the committee members were convinced that Trzaskowski had won with them. possibly it was a mistake.

– but it was written backwards in the protocol that he won the Nawrocks. And the committee counted 9 people. There were 2 statesmen and there was a social observer. Everyone signed the protocol, and nobody noticed that there was a mistake. any people don't know how this could have happened," he says.

– People say it is simply impossible – he adds.

Some think it's a mistake, others think it's an election forgery.

However, most of our speakers are cautious in judgment. They say people are divided. The opinions are very different. any think it's a mistake, others think it's not – we hear.

Some people say,

– I'm having a hard time reacting. I don't want to fishy anyone. I don't want to make confusion. There are appropriate bodies to account for this. There's no telling what happened, how or why. We are waiting for the verdict of the SN.

– I think people think it was a mistake. They don't want to judge. It can happen to anyone. I have mistakes at work too. No 1 is infallible. I fishy the committee members were tired after all day. There's been any kind of oversight and miswrite of the data to the protocol.

One of the interviewers says that the committee was not expected to draw up a copy of the minutes, but to have everything written on a simple card. And here you can look for reasons of confusion, although he does not know how to justice this situation.

– At the top of the card, it was handwritten how many votes Trzaskowski received, and at the bottom was Nawrocki. And possibly individual wrote the data into the protocol, which they instinctively wrote. And the protocol was the opposite, due to the fact that the names were alphabetically entered and Nawrocki was the first – he says.

As he claims, if there was a dirty manuscript, the hazard of mistake would be little due to the fact that the dirty manuscript is created on the print of the protocol. It was all right on the card. It just went incorrect for the record. But why wasn't there a scrip? I don't know. The Commission cannot say, we hear.

Some residents say they feel sorry for the committee. Others cut off from her.

– In my opinion, it is hard to talk about deliberate action. Nobody's perfect. Anyone can make a mistake. He's just a man. The device can be wrong, too. There were mistakes, there are mistakes, there will be mistakes. But it was the committee that was liable for counting the votes, drawing up the minutes and drawing up the documentation for PKW, so ask them. After all, there are people on the committee who are elected by election committees – 1 of the inhabitants reacts.

The committee members refused to talk to us.

As we hear, the committees that called on committee members were very different here, including those that had no presidential candidates at all. Among them were Confederate Committees, KOs, Mark Wocha, Maciej Maciak, and Paweł Tanajno.

But how could so many committee members not see specified a cardinal error?


– This question is not for me – it cuts off our caller.

"There's specified a bad taste after the election that something's wrong"


In Brest and Vienna, they are now waiting for the ultimate Court to decide. We don't know what's next. any committee members experience it very much. I feel sorry for the people who were on this committee," says 1 of the residents.

Another believes that all that happened after the election is not without influence on people.

– There's specified a bad taste after the election that something's wrong. There's something in your head that shouldn't be. But it's hard to talk about it due to the fact that we don't know what happened. We'll most likely find out the fact someday. But let's leave it to the right authorities – another resident is signing.

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