"PiS did not immediately talk about the assassination". writer points to a breakthrough

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Magdalena Rigamonti: The 85th anniversary of the Katyn crime and the 15th anniversary of the Smolensk disaster.

Piotr Świerczek: Katyń was killed by Smolensk. We forget those who were truly murdered by the Russians in Katyn, 85 years ago.

You've been dealing with the Smolensk disaster for 15 years.

The last words Lech Kaczyński said to his brother were, "Get any sleep so you don't fall apart." Back then, the Kaczyński brothers' parent was sick. Jarosław Kaczyński mentioned this in Mark Osiecimski's documentary on TVN24 years after the crash. At the time, we could talk. Then politicians instilled a virus of lies in us.

PiS politicians, including mainly Antoni Macierewicz.

There was a part of the Civic Platform that just whispered to Prime Minister Tusk: Good, let them live with their assassinations. We'll make them crazy. Antoni Macierewicz poisoned the minds of Poles, and Prime Minister Donald Tusk did nothing about it. The squad to unburden Macierewicz's lies was established erstwhile the numbers in the polls concerning the causes of the disaster in favour of the assassination exceeded well over 30 percent. The study on the crash by George Miller was not explained to the public in a simple way.

Sympathy?

No, I just think that both PiS and PO rather cynically, each organization in a different way and with a different weight, utilized what happened in Smolensk. And I'll remember that. Just as I will remember Donald Tusk that he called me a manipulative manipulative, after I presented the message by Edmund Klich, who in the first days after Smolensk told how a 38-million-dollar nation investigates the top disaster in its history. He said there's no on-site comms, missing juror translators, no money, and so on, and so on.

“It was actually the beginning of the end”

Ewa Kopacz said that all part of land at Smolensk airport was checked.

And then she apologized for those words about digging. She kept repeating what the Russians might have said. possibly it was essential to pack Polish specialists from different fields into a second government plane, otherwise arrange these relations with the Russians and effort to make certain of everything. possibly it was essential to guarantee that Polish pathomorphologists participate in sectative activities in Moscow.

They were there, but they weren't allowed to go to the sect tables, sat in the hallway, on the bench.

And they talked to the victims' families alternatively of working on the bodies. Let's be clear that these things have caused all of Antoni Macerewicz's conspiracy theories to fall to susceptible ground.

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And the Smolenian religion was born.

Margaret Wassermann exhumes her father 1 year after the crash. And it turned out that the section papers sent from Moscow did not match the facts. So possibly it doesn't add up? possibly these Russians are lying to us.

Was there a minute in your professional life that you had doubts that there was a disaster in Smolensk alternatively than an assassination?

After the beginning of my movie “The Power of Lies” I was in the Sejm, I spoke to various politicians of the Law and Justice, they patted me on the back and said: good work, good work. They realized that since the U.S. study on the Smolensk disaster had 4,000 pages and Antoni Macierewicz showed only 1,300, there is nothing more to talk about, it is known that Macierewicz showed only what was right for him and accused me of being a Russian agent.

The PiS didn't talk about the assassination. First there was an election run and words about it.

Accelerated presidential election.Jarosław Kaczyński during the presidential run writes a call to the Russian brothers. Everyone remembers that Lech Kaczyński visited Moscow on 9 May in Red Square... Reset between Poland and Russia.

The second circular of elections was at my wedding. It was the 4th of July. The results showed up and it was known that Jarosław Kaczyński was losing the election. And on July 7, Antoni Macierewicz establishes a parliamentary squad for Smolensk affairs. And this is actually the beginning of the end.

Piotr Świerczek: Antoni Macerewicz deceived Polish society

The beginning of the end of our community.

The squad is joined by absolutely all parliamentarians of Law and Justice. And the conspiracy explanation begins, starting with the leak from the plane, which this leak turned out to be a water stain after washing the plane. Then there was the artificial fog, the frost of data in flight, just before the landing, quite a few explosions, 2 bombs, then quite a few explosions. Many of these theories could be cited here, but why, since at least since 2019 Antoni Macierewicz...

He believed in the assassination earlier?

As of 2019, many opinions of abroad experts began to flow to Antoni Macierewicz's desk, which he ordered, and which clearly indicated that there was no assassination.

Moreover, the full communicative of explosives traces on board the aircraft was overthrown by Macerewicz himself. After all, representatives of the Smolensk commission went to a duplicate machine, which has been standing so far on the plate of the military airport in Minsk Mazowiecki, hired 2 teams of researchers who entered this plane and began investigating it. And it turns out there were explosives in it, too. And this duplicate plane has never been to Smolensk...

Unfortunately, we have never officially known the result of these studies, due to the fact that all that was not in line with the communicative that in Smolensk our president was murdered, that it was an assassination, was buried in drawers. Just to manipulate the facts. Reports of major institutions and excellent researchers were either censored or never published. To 1 of the researchers Minister Macierewicz said that if he did not change the conclusions of the report, he would not pay him.

When the power changed, Colonel Leszek Błach's squad was called, the papers confirmed that Antoni Macierewicz deceived Polish society and manipulated public opinion for years.

“Jarosław Kaczyński himself had doubts”

He besides deceived Jarosław Kaczyński. Did Jarosław Kaczyński want to be cheated?

We remember Jarosław Kaczyński's speeches erstwhile he said: we will get to the truth, we will get to the truth. I do not know whether Jarosław Kaczyński became a hostage of Antoni Macierewicz. However, I inactive remember those words by Jarosław Kaczyński. It was most likely 2018 erstwhile he said he was thanking Antoni Macerewicz. And he talked about successful and little successful theories. Which means he had his own doubts. However, the study of the Smolensk Subcommittee comes out.

Cut down, censored, castrated by Antoni Macerewicz.

Then any members of the subcommittee began to say what was happening in the mediate of the subcommittee and that Macerewicz manipulated the facts. Subcommittee chief pyrotechnics said he would not sign the study due to the fact that his investigation did not prove that there was an assassination in Smolensk. A study comes out, in which Antoni Macerewicz de facto states that the Russian Federation murdered our president. And complete silence.

The United Right then rules, but nothing happens. However, erstwhile Russia invades Ukraine, the explosions behind our east border someway strangely coincide with thermobaric bombs on board the plane. And then Jarosław Kaczyński takes the communicative that there was an assassination in Smolensk.

“We had to make more material about how all this was going to happen”

Have you always flown a Tu-154 plane?

Yeah, not once. Among another things, military missions. I've talked to pilots more than once. I knew it wasn't the fun 36th peculiar Regiment where all those government machines were in, but I didn't know it was that bad.

The pilots said that older, more experienced colleagues followed the money to commercial lines and left the young ones alone. I knew there was problem with money and there was problem with time, like training. There were so many flights that there was no de facto time to train or increase your skills.

Did you know it could be dangerous?

Władysław Stasiak, who was killed in this disaster, Minister at Lech Kaczyński's office, gave me an interview a fewer months before the crash. We spoke outside the Presidential Palace. He said: Mr. editor, something bad must happen. This plane must fall and then we'll all wake up. He said it to the TVN24 camera. Many years later, I gave this video to Barbara Stasiak, widow of Minister Stasiak.

Why?

She cared about it. I feel bad due to the fact that you had to do more material about how things were going. possibly then this disaster wouldn't have happened. And I mean not only that we were flying an old plane, but besides what the instructions looked like, why the door to the pilot's compartment was open and fundamentally anyone could have come in.

In civilian aviation this is unthinkable, the pilot must be completely cut off from the environment, must focus on what he does. The rules on who can fly on 1 plane were besides broken on this flight. After the crash, CASY had clear guidelines that there could not be so high-ranking government officials on board. But in the case of a flight to Smolensk this was abandoned. Notabene agreed to this, Bogdan Klich, then Minister of Defence. He was going to say, "I agree, especially since I'm going. Well, he flew, as we know, his deputy.

Just before the landing, Arkadiusz Protasiuk, the pilot of Tupolawa, hears from Jak's crew, who has already landed in Smolensk with a group of journalists: Arek, now you can see 200.

The plane continues to descend. It falls at 2 stories per second.

Terrain ahead, terrain ahead — we all remember that.

I: pull up, pull up. They could inactive fly away, but the tree cuts off the wing tip, the plane loses the balance of the carrier force, and even though it rises, it begins to spin on the left wing. As a result, he rolls over, makes a barrel and falls. Simple. Unfortunately.

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