Ziobra's proceeding began at noon. Let us add that the politician was previously detained by police officers at Chopin's Warsaw Airport. This had to do with a court order for forced entry before the Pegasus committee after the politician failed to appear at the proceeding respective times.
Confusion during Ziobra interrogation
After 1:00 p.m., there was confusion during the hearing. Mr Lukaszewicz, present in the Chamber, suspended a card with Roman Giertych's image and a quote: "It is simply better not to contact the substance of Polnordu" and a note: Pegasua's committee associate dated 24 June 2025. This is simply a quote from 1 of Onetu's articles.
– I see you gentlemen have decided to do the circus again. I realize that's the method. The Lord is pleased, the audience looks at us – said Magdalena Magpieka.
Eventually, MP Patryk Jaskulski from Poland 2050 took off the card, but the committee associate Joanna Kluzik-Rostkowska tore it. Earlier, Mariusz Gosek approached the presidential table and started talking on the phone.
Zbigniew Ziobro mentioned Polnord as 1 of the cases where Pegasus was used. I heard we were chasing innocent Gierty. ... POLNORD’s auditors have detected irregularities in the company. Gierty and the company pursued their interests against the law. The authorities concluded that Gierty was a thief who was moving money out of the company," he said.
He added, "At the minute erstwhile it was clear that the credits won't be repaid, the banks asked to safe the claims with shares in Polnord." As the erstwhile MS chief said, at the time the crime group, "Mr. Gierty was a member, began to decision money".
She continued to convince that Roman Gierty "has the right to hatred him" due to the fact that Ziobro oversaw the case. The politician besides talked about the creation of "company-crows" and "heads" as part of the money walk from Polnord. – PLN 5 million went to Mr Giertych, his account in Italy," he said.
Following these words, Roman Giertych reported on platform X that he was filing a announcement to the prosecutor on Zbigniew Ziobra.
Ziobro before the committee on Pegasua
Let us remind that before Zbigniew Ziobro admitted that he "had cognition of the usage of Pegasus software in the case of erstwhile transport minister Sławomir Nowak".
– On 20 July 2020 Sławomir Nowak was detained with suspicions of corruption, organizing an global mob group (...) Pegasus was an effective tool to detect large human corruption, a close associate of Donald Tusk, a friend for years who created an organized crime group on an global scale. (...) Thanks to the Pegasus, many facts have been established in this matter,” said the erstwhile minister.
