"Things in this": there is no wake climate in the PiS, but there is no hurraoptimism either

The two-day program convention of Law and Justice under the motto “Thinking Poland” in Katowice was to be the beginning of a fresh beginning in Jarosław Kaczyński's party. But did she truly set a fresh course, or did she show that the Law and Justice were inactive looking for fresh ideas after losing power? The atmosphere, political calculations and future of Marzen Tabor-Olszewska is discussed with Michał Kolanko from Rzeczpospolita.