" Modern Europe is stupid".

Prof. Legutko warns:

Muslims will take over peacefully,

And we'll disappear.

Przemysław Obłuski

independent.pl/politics/risk-legutko 20.12.2025,

Are we facing the end of Europe as we know it? Prof. Ryszard Legutko has no illusions. In a conversation with our portal, it points out that the Old Continent, cutting itself off from Christianity and Roman law, became “unwise” and defenseless against left-wing absurds. The demographic collapse of indigenous Europeans in a collision with the children of immigrants leads to an inevitable catastrophe. "The people of the Western planet will live safe until the Muslims yet take over," the prophet calls for rebellion against the dictatorship of the mainstream.

If you were to name the top threats to Europe, what would this list look like? I am not just talking about politics, although it is surely impossible to escape it in this context. I mean mentality, values.

Now the words “Europe” is utilized interchangeably with the words “European Union’. Quite rightly, due to the fact that Europe's condition is reflected in the state of the European Union today. So we can say about this Europe that it cuts off from European heritage by treating it as a museum or form of disease. Let us remember that the Union is governed by the left, and this 1 has it against itself, that it always wants to build a fresh world, for which the reason is that the old planet is wrong. And we saw the same thing in Marxism, with Marxists having – I would say – a somewhat warmer attitude towards part of the European heritage, due to the fact that they wanted to get into them to add value.

Today, however, they are treated with contempt, as can be seen in education, where the European tradition is seldom mentioned, and frequently politics or political ideology. Therefore, I think that – let it not sound besides delicious – modern Europe is rather stupid. Silly not in the sense that there are no prominent people, or that discipline is not developing, but that it is uninterested in knowing anything that deviates from the points of view presently adopted and has no awareness of its own state. Europe expresses itself either in what is technically applicable to economics, banking, engineering, computer science, etc., or in what is ideological, which is aimed at a future new, wonderful world. For example, metaphysics has disappeared as a category justifying the strategy of power. Truth, 1 of the main categories of European thought, has besides been undermined by bringing contextual sense. Roman law loses meaning and is not a compulsory subject of teaching, and its principles are broken. It is so no wonder that Europe is becoming foolish to turn distant from its own culture.

You said the modern planet was stupid, you besides talked about fighting for souls and the truth. However, we live in a time erstwhile modern Europeans can be fed the most absurd theories by citing any expected technological consensus. People are able to believe that the planet is on fire and so should not have children, that a man is simply a female and can bear children, that animals should have the same rights as humans. It seems now that people can be manipulated freely and paradoxically – with much greater access to information than before. You can change their perception of the surrounding reality and yet the hierarchy of values. As humans today, are we the kind of plastic that can be done?

Modern man is susceptible to what is happening, and he can be pushed into all sorts of foolishness. There are no intellectual tools to challenge this nonsense. To do so, he would gotta look at today's reality from an external point of view, and this reality became unattainable to him.

Christianity in Europe has lost its influence, metaphysics, as I said, has been disqualified, classical education has been abolished. And since there is no external evaluation tribunal, the future planet according to the left-wing script is not critical. What is happening is good and no sensible alternate to improvement exists. It is only possible to increase radicalism: it is not adequate to preach feminism but to repress those who defy it; it is not adequate to preach LGBT, but to add more letters, etc. If specified a message flows from everywhere, not only from political institutions, but besides from courts, from universities, from technological circles, from the media, from corporations, how can a contemporary man be poorly educated, separated from European roots, incapable to argue? It's a tiny chance. If it does not internalize, it will frequently become conformist and will adapt to the environment just in case.

The paradox is that the most absurd ideas not only penetrate the minds of millions of people, but enter with the message of independence, anxiety, autonomy, boldness of thinking. Indistinguishable people creating a single mass become convinced that each of them is simply a spirit of independent and independent entity that changes the planet in a sense of freedom and autonomy. It utilized to be imagined, and it was the 1950s, that all major changes in the planet were over. After the discredit of communism, no full thought will grasp, and the people of the Western planet will live safely, having many opportunities for intellectual improvement and accomplishment of wealth. And although it has been stressed that large ideologies will proceed to appear in intellectual environments, they will not influence the minds of the broad crowds. These predictions did not work because, while fresh ideologies were born in intellectual circles, they were even crazier, but effectively penetrated into the minds of a large number of citizens. Will the madness always settle down and the female will be a woman, a man, a marriage, and an abortion by killing the unborn, and will common sense and a sense of measurement come back and that global institutions standing defender on madness specified as the European Union will be compromised in the end? I would say that there is more chance that, after the collapse of today's ideological idols, people will find fresh ones and make further attempts to build a fresh wonderful world, even more ridiculous and causing even greater damage. But it will be a problem for generations in the distant future. It is our work to fight today's madness.

From what you have said, I conclude that this average, statistical European – of course I know that there is no specified one, that is simply a very large simplification – is an unwise, possibly self-fulfilling egotist who perceives the planet only in the position of “here and now”, and possibly any idealist, an altruist with flaps in front of his eyes in the form of false contemporary dogmas, for example climate. Who could this European be in 20-30 years?

I don't know that, of course. I can only complete the erstwhile statement. The combination of selfishness and altruism is simply a constant feature of human nature. Madness comes from the common permeation of both. We very much want to give our lives and our actions a deeper sense, and we are looking for it – in order to say so – at the base of meanings. There, the most advertised and proposed present is what we talked about, namely climateism, genderism and others. They are intended to give to those who engage in them individual satisfaction, which will let them to heal from the various existential sufferings, loneliness and another sufferings of the modern soul. How this bazaar of meanings will look in 30 years and what meanings will have the most effective advertising, it is hard to say. I think choice problems will be similar. If we consider that man divides himself into body and soul, then the man of present well-managed the body thanks to the gym and diet – in a figurative abbreviation. It's worse with the soul. Here triumphs shine therapy and therapists, but these are ad hoc measures. The thought to fulfill a man is gone and failed to build a gym equivalent and a diet for the soul. From here, it is about saving the planet or condomizing Africa.

Europe has small to offer. The only serious offer was Christianity, above all Catholicism, not only due to the fact that it describes the human soul and the nature of man well, but besides due to the fact that it is the only spiritual stream present that appeals us to classical culture. Unfortunately, we observe that Catholicism besides shows signs of capitulation by giving part of its identity to today's fashions: blessing ice as a bow to climateism, or blessing homosexual couples as a bow to genderism. Fortunately, opposition is born against this chapter, but if it is effective, they will show decades to come.

Let's effort to reschedule what you said so far. Deadly crucial – and I believe that there is no exaggeration here – is the progressive demographic collapse in most European countries. We seem to underestimate its effects, neglect to see, and they will inevitably be dramatic. Let us add that this collapse affects mainly indigenous Europeans, for example, Muslims surviving in Europe enjoy a very many offspring. How come we let ourselves be told that erstwhile we don't make families, we won't have kids, we'll be better off?

Europeans know that if there is no money, the strategy will not last. Therefore, immigrants were considered to be 1 of the remedies to fill the demographic collapse. This applicable solution, rather effective, caused problems of another kind and even bigger.

Why do Europeans not reproduce?

There are different answers. Once, erstwhile poorness was a burning problem, it seemed that after its liquidation the household would flourish. This proved to be false. The misery was drastically reduced, and the consequence of the increase in wealth became comfort. The more we have the chance to take care of the child, the more frequently the desire for comfort wins. The more we get utilized to comfort, the little we want to limit it.

You can besides look at the problem of underchildhood more metaphysically and associate it with secularization. In a secularized world, human life is seen in terms of a single finite existence. I live from birth to death, and my thought does not go beyond that limit. specified same - perception makes children no longer indispensable, for they will not prolong life. That's why the attacks on the household are a disruptive comfort of existence; that's why the reason for the abortion is here. increasingly recognised not only as a woman's right but besides as a human right.

So it is partially paradoxical, and partially understandable, that individual who does not scope beyond the limits of his life and does not request to self-determinate his children, will at the same time be subject to large agitation to the thought, which will happen to our planet in a fewer 100 or respective 1000 years, and that he will fight for the behaviour of uncommon insects, although without blinking his eye – depending on the sex – he will undergo abortion or force a female to do it. It is astonishing not to take care of uncommon insects or to care about the planet, but to have an different disparity between the perception of your own life and the perception of the world.

The old Europe is not only dying, but – as you have already said – is losing its irreparably religious, historical and cultural identity. The grandchildren of today's 30-year-olds will live in a completely different reality, due to the fact that Muslims will yet take over peacefully. Are Europeans full aware of the consequences of this?

Too many of them remove this problem beyond consciousness. Europeans, as I said, like to despair about what will happen to the planet in a fewer or respective 1000 years than to think about what will happen in the next decades. A lost approach to immigration in the West comes from the confusion of 2 elements. The first is the inactive existing hangover after colonialism, effectively maintained in existence by the left. The second origin is the liberal task of an open society, in which everyone is to fit and in order to accomplish this, 1 must destruct disturbing old habits, customs and stereotypes. Immigrants are treated as a battering ram to break down the old and let the fresh to be created.

The combination of a postcolonial hangover and the thought of an open society, though highly foolish, caused paralysis of the will. Let's take it. Sweden, a country which, 20 years ago, belonged to the most safe in Europe and, at the moment, to the least secure. I don't know how far the Swedes have identified themselves with the colonial sin of the white race, But given that the left has ruled there for decades, they most likely feel hung over for others.. In any event, the degradation of social tissue caused by immigration did not happen as a consequence of 1 decision, but lasted at least respective years. And the Swedes looked at this degradation and did nothing to halt the trial. This applies to the full of Western Europe, which has suffered akin paralysis.

It's besides late now. And no pathetic migration pacts invented by the European Commission will reverse the changes.

How about now? democracy. The form of Europe is determined by politicians who enjoy small support in their countries, specified as Emmanuel Macron or Friedrich Merz. On the another hand, the European Commission, which has large competence, is simply a non-transparent body, emerging in a reasonably shady and incomprehensible procedure for the average bread eater. How is that possible? How does this relate to the thought of democracy that so much is being said about in Europe?

I was talking about making the West stupid. Among another things, this folly is manifested by the fact that in the planet of universal access to human information it is easy and massively possible to lie. This is besides done by the European Union, which, in its 10th Article of the Treaty on the EU, says that it acts on the basis of typical democracy, and that is clearly a lie. It would be closer to saying that the Union and the Western planet are moving towards despotism. The law is becoming increasingly repressive, censorship is growing, and people are becoming increasingly afraid of repression. It's visible everywhere, not just in colleges, where bad things started, but in society at all. The measurement of today's meekness, credulity or, as I have said above, foolishness is that many people have believed that censorship is not censorship, but concern for the fact that repression is not repression, but a tool for spreading diversity, that the existence of ideological monopoly does not bring about conformism, but pluralism, and so on.

And quite a few people believe that.

Yes, many believe it sincerely, and others take it unreflexively as an apparent thought "it is commonly known that ...". Europe has managed to make on a large scale any kind of orthodoxy. A de facto one-party strategy was created, due to the fact that it consists of parties having akin views: from green and socialists through liberals, to alleged chadeks who have nothing to do with chadeks. This coalition is called the mainstream, although it is based on the left-wing agenda, and the alleged chadeces of the CDU and another parties from the EPP have long since capitulated and adopted it as their own. Those who do not belong to this stream are denied the right to appear in full public space. In the European Union, specified parties are surrounded by sanitary cordon and virtually prevent access to decision-making bodies. Countries that break out of the mainstream are subject to pressure, blackmail and, as in the case of Poland, interference in democratic elections. Hungary is experiencing akin aggression. There were besides attacks on Romania and Croatia. And since the mainstream has mastered all European institutions and most governments, it has managed to importantly grow its power over the past fewer years, which it is increasingly unceremoniously exercising. The Union is moving rapidly in lawlessness.

What can you do about it? How do we change that?

The simplest way, although hard in practice, is to get the chance to influence EU policy, for example, by forming a blocking number in the Council. The mainstream will not quit and limit power unless it meets effective resistance. president Nawrocki at Charles University in Prague pointed out a akin scenario. The solution is simple, but for now it is hard to gather adequate coalition. This may win after successful elections in Hungary, Poland, France and another countries. The 3 of Visegrads obeyed the ECJ. That's a good signal.

I dream of east and Central Europe creating a common front. A akin thought is found in a paper presenting a fresh American strategy. But in addition to the political level, there is besides a intellectual level. And that's where things get more complicated. I'll go back to the question again, how it is possible that millions of people in Europe are subject to hoax, for example, by calling European oligarchy a democratic system.

Or take Poland. We've been dealing with political gangsterism for 2 years, rampant lawlessness, criminalization of the opposition and another terrible things. How is it possible that in a planet where the religion of human rights prevails and everyone sings collective hymns to honor democracy, this political gangsterism does not provoke widespread protests? I would realize that European institutions are not protesting due to the fact that they are stubborn to pathological limits. But there are nominally non-political institutions – media, associations, universities. Chatham House, a well-reputed institution admitted Donald Tusk's award for restoring democracy and the regulation of law.

Has everyone gone crazy already – would you like to ask? The very existence of the mainstream should not, after all, release people straight unpunished from political thinking. Is it possible that the situation went so far that Chatham home would lose all reputation if he criticized Tusk? possibly in Western Europe we are besides dealing with a alleged fighting democracy, and anyone who has snorts, should be at the very top of the prestige, will be immediately thrown to the bottom and battered. This is all rather frightening, due to the fact that it means an absolute triumph of ideology and politics over reality. After all, what is happening in Poland is not a hidden thing, as in North Korea, but visible to the bare eye. Unfortunately, the Western planet seems to be falling into a lie, even though the fact is at hand. To ask how to get out of this, I have no revealing answer beyond this well-known one: it is neither to lie nor to participate in a lie.

In the United States, the pendulum went the another way. We do not know for how long, due to the fact that this may end after the next election, but do you think it will be of any importance for waking up in Europe. At the moment, there is no peculiar impact and Europe is inactive in the old railways.

Europe is immobile. However, there is simply a change, and this gives emergence to average optimism. Trump played a function here, but an independent movement is expanding to challenge indivisible mainstream governments. In the optimistic scenario, 1 can imagine the solstice in France after the presidential elections, the continuations of the governments of Victor Orban and Georgia Meloni, the increase in the power of Vox in Spain, the breach of the monopoly of the large coalition in Germany, the triumph of the right in Poland and a certain awakening in Central and Central Europe. But here you should be careful.

The triumph of the National Unity in France does not necessarily mean the triumph of conservatism, Orban can lose the election, and the Polish right besides at this minute does not warrant victory. AFD in power, if it got it, it's alternatively unknown. And so on. However, it is crucial to strike the mainstream parties out of the sense of impunity and to halt and, in the optimal version, to partially collapse the European Union. Because it is now the main vehicle of degradation of Europe and the main force destroying European political culture.

Doesn't sound very optimistic.

Maybe not. I always wear 2 hats – 1 philosopher, another politician. The former, prompts skepticism, the second to activism. And due to the fact that I am already a politician Former, skepticism, caution, and even occasional pessimism are likely to prevail in me today. The greater my joy will be erstwhile things go better than I thought.

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