We don't want to go back to 2015, we want to go back to civilization

"We were the European average. And now we're a pariah of Europe. Strasbourg beats us, Luxembourg beats us, the European Commission beats us, and rightly so, due to the fact that they respond to pathologies. We have a immense problem in our country" – Judges Krystian Markiewicz and Bartłomiej Przymusiński talk with Tomasz Sawczuk about fresh projects to repair the judiciary.