On October 21, Tucker Carlson met as part of a continuation of Charlie Kirk's work with young people at Indiana University. In addition to the sympathizers killed, representatives of another cultural and political orientations were present, and they asked most of the questions.
One of them was a student from Poland. His questions in a model way reflect not only the state of historical ignorance, but besides the infantile way of looking at the planet dominant in many Polish heads. However, in this case, a recitator of a set of think-makers from Polish media came across individual who did not bite his tongue, and as it turned out he knows the past and understands the mechanisms governing the planet of real politics.
Ignorance and seasoned with moral sauce the correct declarations of the young Pole were embarrassing, but Carlson's reposts are a show of common sense and sincerity. Therefore, it is not amazing that the American's words provoked outrage in Radosław Sikorski, although in this case the reason may have been malicious, but a appropriate mention to the individual of the head of the Polish Ministry of abroad Affairs. The full can service as a model example of the collision of realism and the view of the world, as it is with completely rerealised ideas of Polish politicians and as you can see, at least any Polish students, which should be a reason to worry about the future of Poland, which will be like its youth hiding. Below is simply a translation of the full exchange between the American writer (TC) and a Polish student (J):
(J) I'm John. I came from Poland as part of a student exchange and I would like to ask about your position regarding the east flank of NATO and about the war in Ukraine. From what I have heard from you today, but besides from what I have seen personally in your programs, you take a very harsh position towards the president of Ukraine and you specify him as I quote; as a dictator. You ignore the fact that Ukraine is under martial law. What truly annoys me is that you present this war as a conflict of 2 sides, which you put on an equal footing, while we, based on our cognition of Russian past and reflection of what the Russians are doing and what they have been doing for 300 years, know that they like to present themselves as a victim. Starting with the Kremlow Wars (?? – O.S.), through the First War and so on. My question is, don't you find it inappropriate to blame all of Ukraine? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you completely ignore the fact that Russia is an aggressor in this war.
(TC) First of all, I'm sorry if that's how I was understood. I didn't mean that Ukraine was guilty of everything. I believe Ukraine is simply a victim, an aggressor is NATO. NATO did it under Joe Biden, and that led to this madness. In the United States, on many levels of the establishment that creates abroad policy, and also, what I say with regret; there are many people in the Pentagon and surely in the NATO office who want war on Russia. Which is why we're witnessing her. No, this is not a war between Ukraine and Russia, this is simply a war between the US and Russia. Western Europe is completely ruined by it. Poland is simply a country I love and I have never met a Pole I would not like. And I realize very well why you don't trust the Russians, why you have historical reasons to be angry at them. It's absolutely legitimate. It is apparent that no country has suffered more than Poland in the last 100 years, no country. I understand. But Poland does not regulation the world, and Ukraine does not regulation the world, even Russia does not regulation the world. They regulation it or regulation it before the outbreak of this war the United States. And it was the leaders of the United States who wanted war on Russia. It is simply a substance of discussion why. I think it has something to do with natural riches, as does the desire to keep hegemony. possibly it is the fact that Russia is the largest white and Christian country. There are many reasons, but they wanted a war with Russia. I have no reason to defend Russia, I just think it is not good for America and I am absolutely convinced that it is not good for Poland. I think you should think about it. You can't beat Russia in a war. NATO can't save you. I'm sorry, but so far NATO has failed to defeat Russia.
All we have achieved is to show our own fundamental weakness, the weakness behind our threats. How is this expected to service the United States? It's not, and that's what worries me. And again, I would like to repeat: Zelenski is simply a very bad actor who does not work in the interests of Ukraine. It is apparent that they were selling Nath weapons on the free market, including terrorist groups. That's sick. Zelenski is bad. However, most Ukrainians are not evil, they are wonderful people who are being destroyed. Why? due to the fact that Joe Biden and NATO leaders wanted a war with Russia. Ukraine is simply a pawn and Poland is simply a pawn. You have any large leaders, but you besides have very bad men including Anne Applebaum, they are madmen, ideologists who don't care what happens to Poland. All they care about is beating Putin.
(J) - 1 more question. Do you not think that a sovereign nation like Ukraine voted in the Zelenski election due to the fact that he had had adequate erstwhile power and that specified a leader has the right to decide on behalf of a sovereign nation to join NATO? And I say this from the position of the sovereign nation that speaks; we want to be in NATO as a sovereign nation and there should be no country that can forbid it.
(TC) – Ukraine is not a sovereign nation and has not been a sovereign nation since at least 2014. 1 can even claim that she was never a sovereign nation. It'd be good if she was, but she wasn't. Her president was overthrown in a 2014 coup backed by the US. It's all on tape, so we don't gotta argue about it. We've got Victoria Nuland tapes that talk about it and it's been recorded, delight look online. It was a coup, and they're pawns. Unfortunately, most tiny countries end up as pawns in this world. I'm sorry about all of them, but it's true. Poland is an excellent example. This is why so many Poles have lost their lives in the last 100 years, due to the fact that they have found themselves on a flat part of land in the mediate of Europe as a pawn. I realize that, and it's sad, but NATO did it. Russia does not want western atomic weapons on its western border. Why would she want to? And we didn't agree. Why did we do this? Did the Russians truly want to attack Liechtenstein? Yet they pushed NATO east and provoked the reaction. I am against the invasion of Ukraine, and I do not praise Putin for it. But we did, Biden did, and it's just a fact. By the way, he got rich. This is simply a very dark story, and no 1 has always answered for it. At the same time, Mike Lindell is persecuted for saying something that the justice didn't like, but Victoria Nuland is walking around free. And that's how it works, just like Epstein, and it's truly frustrating erstwhile you look at how guilty they are.
(J) It's so frustrating. However, at the same time, we as a free planet as you said we should name an aggressor by name and admit that Putin is simply a dictator who kills political opponents, kills journalists. You know it, and everyone knows it. He poisons those who argue him.
(TC) – Yes, Putin is bad, I understand, OK, and I realize the charge of calling individual bad, but in this case it is not about who is bad, but how to solve this problem. And the essence of this is the designation that NATO cannot be further expanded, which is not a defence pact, but is aggressive and expansionist. NATO bombed Serbia for no apparent reason, killed Gaddafi, it's all sick.
(J) There were apparent reasons. The Serbs killed Bosnians and Muslims in the Balkans. You should read about it.
(TC) I read it, and I was there last week. We disagree, but all I'm saying is that they wanted a war with Russia and they have it. This is not good for the United States, this is an absolute disaster for the Ukrainians. I'm sorry about that. I've spent quite a few time in different countries, and I know that the leader of a country might be angry. Okay, I know quite a few bad guys. But that's not the answer to what we should do. And what we should be doing is to end the conflict immediately, due to the fact that it causes the deaths of innocent people, weakens the US and forces Russia to embrace China, which forms a block of BRICS larger than the Western alliance, to which we and European countries belong, which are deindustrialised and destroyed by immigration.
(J) I know BRICS is very dangerous. However, finally, I personally believe that this sovereign nation was attacked by Russia, and OK, NATO was involved.
(TC) This is not a sovereign nation. We chose his authority. That was the client state where Joe Biden and his boy got rich, that was their creation. Ukraine has always been a satellite either Russia or the West. Look where it's on the map. Look at her natural resources. She will be influenced by greater powers. Unfortunately, that's how the planet works. She had a choice whether to be a client of the United States or Russia. We made her our client, but she was never sovereign.
(J) – But Russia has been a country that has attacked another countries many times. Remember that Russia has a long past of invasion of sovereign countries! Georgia, Poland.
(TC) I understand, I understand, you're all afraid of Russia.
(J) "And I think that we as NATO and in the name of the values that NATO should maintain, any rules must be respected.
(TC) I have a better idea. Why won't Poland go to war with Russia? If that's how you feel, why don't you go defend Ukraine? I'm sorry, but why should I pay for this? It weakens the US. I'm trying to be reasonable. I realize your concern, I do not think it is unfounded and I truly realize your story, and I know that it is all actual and I love Poles. On the another hand, this is simply a regional problem. Why should I get involved? Why should my children live in a atomic war to defend Ukraine or Poland? I like Poland, I like Ukraine, but I am American. Not a dollar more. No. Fight, fight if it's so crucial to you.
(J) I understand. I'm not American.
(TC) I don't want to attack you. I'm certain you'll be arrogant of it.
(J) - Yeah, I most likely will.
(TC) You've done this before.
(J) – Nevertheless, I think that if we are in an alliance and are dating any things, then we should stick together in hard times,
(TC) And how does that work?
(J) – Even if it does not work best under the current administration...
(TC) – If you have not won so many unfortunate Poles so easy succumbed to emotions, then you have a long past – no offense – of going into catastrophes for this reason. But don't do it again!
(J) "I would just like to conclude by saying that I hope you know that you are fundamentally spreading the Russian point of view and introducing it to this debate. I don't think Americans as the leader of the free planet should do that.
(TC) But we're paying for this war.
(J) - And you do business on her.
((TC) This is our war.
(J) Thank you for your time.
Olaf Swolkień
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