Conversation with Alexander Tsinker, polytologist, erstwhile Kneset MP
I'll start by asking, how could all this have happened? Practically the full planet wonders how it was possible. The question besides arises where Hamas fighters had so many weapons.
– Right now, as we're talking, I got word again about the fire of the central part of the country. There's no large secret about guns. This is the consequence of smuggling tunnels hollowed out of Egypt. It was smuggled into parts and then folded. And then it was used. Where it came from in Egypt – I don't know it, but erstwhile we go in there – I think that land operations are about to begin – we'll see what kind of weapons they had. There are about 40,000 trained Hamas fighters there, and that's why they did it. quite a few people wonder why they decided to do this right now. I can already say officially that after the Israeli army liberated the occupied areas, it reached the border and rebuilt the fence, the bodies of 1,500 killed militants were counted on our territory. In addition, any were taken prisoner, and any most likely escaped. So they attacked with large force. That's the situation. The question is why this happened now. Here are any hypotheses. On the 1 hand, Israel's talks with Saudi Arabia have late been intensified. If we could communicate with them, most likely the largest muslim countries, specified as Malaysia, Indonesia, would follow the Saudis. In this way, Palestine's problem would go to the background. due to the fact that even Saudi Arabia, which emphasized that the Palestinian case had to be resolved somehow, did not supply the condition that it should be the expression of 2 nations – 2 states or the postulate of the capital in Jerusalem. Initially, this was discussed, but it was later acknowledged that greater independency should be ensured, any financial problems solved. It was so found that the Palestinian Authority could vanish from the information space. And it was dangerous for them. erstwhile you vanish from this information space, you lose a lot, besides financially. On the another hand, an appropriate minute was chosen erstwhile in Israel, practically for a year now, a conflict of government coalitions with opposition, public gatherings, social-political movements of the protest appear. It was said that even the reservists refused to carry out military service. And this was the minute of Israel's weakness, which I read about in the Iranian and Syrian media that wrote, "Look, this is simply a good time to attack him." The coincidence of these factors caused them to effort to carry out this gigantic terrorist act. The press departments of the embassies of various countries were in the south of the country and were shocked. Western diplomats said Bucza in Ukraine was a kindergarten, that it could be compared with Auschwitz, the Auschwitz camp. Not far from the Gaza Strip that night from Friday to Saturday there was an global festival, there were guests from various countries. erstwhile it was all over, 260 bodies were found massacred there. They were shot. It wasn't a war effort. I don't mean to insult animals, but they did worse than animals.
Let us return to the matters of the confederate border of Gaza. I think there were arrangements with Egypt that he was expected to defender this border...
– No, they were expected to defend her from their side, but there are problems there, too. In Egypt, there are Muslim Brothers who – praise God – are not in power at present. But there are clashes with them on the Sinain Peninsula, and possibly they are connected with the construction of these underground tunnels through which smuggling and transportation of weapons are carried out. The Egyptians are only liable for their part of the border and Israel for theirs. In this peculiar situation, however, it is hard to say that Egypt did something consciously, that he did not see something. I think they're doing what they can, due to the fact that it creates certain problems for the Egyptian authorities, too.
Yes, including a possible exile wave...
Potential threat. Moreover, Israel warned where it would raid, giving civilians a chance to leave these areas and decision southward toward Egypt, so the Egyptians fear this wave. They announced that they would pass no more than 2,000 refugees a day through the Rafah border crossing. due to the fact that Egypt has problems.
Of course. Who is behind Hamas' back? We hear that there is virtually no economical base in the Gaza Strip, there is no way to make money, even for those who control the local, underdeveloped economy. So it looks like there must have been any sponsors...
– As for making money, over 20,000 people in Gaza are working in Israel. Many things are delivered from Israel. For example, it was only last night that the supply of electricity, water and gas was discontinued, due to the fact that it would be foolish to deliver them to terrorists who kill your people. Incidentally, the Gaza authorities did not pay for these supplies, assuming there were certain agreements between them and Israel. A coastal region was besides designated, if I am not mistaken, 20 km wide for fisheries. On the another hand, we know that any countries, specified as Qatar, supply money in cash to pay officials in the Gaza Strip. There is besides circumstantial support from Turkey, Iran. At 1 time Hamas' leadership was in general in Turkey, although they have late been Qatar. So they have money. If you look at the villa districts by the sea in the Gaza Strip, there are houses that the people of the Côte d'Ivoire could envy. I offered to bomb those neighborhoods first.
Gaza Strip is 1 of the most densely populated areas on Earth.
“Yes, there are over 1.5 million people on a very tiny surface.
The question frequently arises as to how much Israeli peculiar services, intelligence, were prepared for all this? How professional have they been in this situation?
– They frequently ask me that question, and we ask ourselves. Like 50 years ago, after the Jom Kippur War, erstwhile the Agranat committee was formed, which was faced by members of the government, and they tried to explain how it happened, I think we're going to effort to figure out what it was like now. Obviously, he failed the interview. 1 should have known that specified an operation was being prepared, especially since late Hamas was conducting any maneuvers at sea, shooting exercises, as well as meetings in Beirut with the muslim Jihad and another groups. Given that our services have informants in many arabian countries, it seems to me that they could have approached this more professionally. On the another hand, erstwhile this invasion began, it turned out that the Israeli troops had not been trained to act in the event of a conflict in Israel. In the last 50 years, they have not faced specified a situation, due to the fact that Israel attacked. Hence, there were problems with regaining control of various agricultural settlements, kibbutzes in the south. It was interesting what happened on the 25th birthday of a girl who was liable for safety in 1 of the kibbutzes. erstwhile she realized what was going on, she went around all the houses in the kibbutz and gathered all the men with guns. They didn't let terrorists in, they took out 25 of them. She became a hero and all Israel made her wishes. So there have been these incredible cases that can't even be imagined in any Hollywood movie. That was at first. Later, erstwhile the full military strategy began operating, peculiar military units were downloaded. The soldiers searched the house. It happened that terrorists sat on the level and held the hosts on the ground floor, not allowing them to uncover that they were hiding. Gradually, however, they managed to regain control and release hostages and liquidate the perpetrators. Later we counted the bodies of 1,500 Hamas terrorists. shortly everything was normalized, the wall was rebuilt, armored troops and units were launched to enter the Gaza Strip. The frequency of rocket attacks declined immediately. Although the second time I was talking to you, there were alarm sirens, but it's a small south of where I live, and that's why I can talk to you and I don't gotta run to the shelter.
Will the current crisis strengthen the position of Prime Minister Netanyahu, or will the opposition usage it?
– The government of national unity is now emerging, which will have a free hand in this emergency in bringing the substance to an end. I think this will be Netanyahu's last term. He should step down like Golda Meir. Although Golda Meir was innocent of anything, she did more than the general staff of the Israeli army. However, she took the blame for the death of the soldiers and resigned. In my opinion, the military committee that makes the decisions should wait for the proposals of the peculiar committee and then its members should resign. That's why I think this is besides Netanyahu's last term.
But this is all after the conflict...
- Yeah. You gotta win and then you gotta explain everything. There's another interesting thing. After we've had all these protests, cases of military service denied in fresh months, Israel has now announced the mobilisation of reservists. In the first 2 days, 400,000 people reported. It's been decided that it's besides much to take 360,000. For example, my brother's grandson should have come from the United States today, where he was on vacation. He's a reserve soldier, an artilleryman. He already knows he's heading north on Israel. And he despairs that his colleagues are already in the army, and he's just coming and he couldn't show up sooner. There is so no situation of any division of Israel that would deprive Israel of its combat ability. People wait 4 hours in queues to donate blood due to the fact that many people were injured. And these reservists in 2 days... It seems to me that even in a country as large as Russia, erstwhile called into the army, their number was much smaller.
Yeah, much smaller.
- 400,000 in 2 days is for tiny Israel... Thus, as they say, Am Yisrael Chai, or the nation of Israel, is inactive alive. We gotta win, and then we'll figure out what to do next.
Matthew Piskorski spoke
Dr. Alexander Tsinker – Israeli Politologist and Analyst, associate of the Knesset 15th term.
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