"The thing about it": The biggest winner of the situation in PiS may turn out to be the Confederation

In the latest episode of the podcast "Rzecz w tym", Marzena Tabor-Olszewska talks to Artur Bartkiewicz about the future of the right, Mateusz Morawiecki's political ambitions and possible post-election scenarios. The conversation besides raises questions about the function of the Confederation, the Polish People's organization and who can form the next government.