- The settlements of the erstwhile power are highly important, but it must be done well to guarantee that cases last in courts. And that's why it must go on," stated Adam Bodnar in the program "Politic WF with a guest". In his opinion, it was the force on accounts that led to his resignation as Minister of Justice. He noted that it was never performed by Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
Piotr Witwicki and Marcin Fijołek questioned Adam Bodnar "how do you work under the force of those who say reforms in the judiciary, settlements go slowly, besides slow?"
- I'm sorry. It's evidently force and I think It's specified a force that ended with me not acting as Minister of Justice, lawyer General. There is no request to hide that it was social expectations, which were driven by any people of public life, that consistently led to the questioning of legitimacy, strength, the questioning of all those actions which were taken by me, or by the prosecution, besides in the context of the accounts," Bodnar stated.
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- I'm sorry. How long has specified an exchange of Minister of Justice been going on? I realize that it is not that 1 day 1 politician, a prosecutor or a lawyer comes to the Prime Minister and says, "Look, this Bodnar needs to be replaced", only this process takes a while, matures - asked the Fijołek.
- I'm sorry. It's more of a question to the Prime Minister than to me. Me I was just a passive recipient of those decisions. delight note that discussions on the exchange of the lawyer General and the exchange of Romana Giertych They already ran for a large part of 2024. Later, I believe that the political actions of your patron were not so strong, and at the same time the prosecution besides began to show that, erstwhile approaching these issues and settlements according to the law, there could be very concrete results. These effective waivers of immunity, effective charges, indictments have emerged and so on - said Adam Bodnar.
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Senator KO recalled that the discussion of besides slow pace of reforms and settlements came back after the presidential election.
- I'm sorry. And not even in the context of looking guilty for failure in them - although specified voices appeared at the very beginning - only more in the context of the usage of this atmosphere related to the reconstruction of the government and besides in the context of everything that has happened in terms of counting of votes and electoral protests - the guest of the show.
When asked about names of "conspirators" He replied that "he would be the last individual to point them out in the media now whether to analyse how it happened."
- I'm sorry. On the another hand, I think that all vigilant observers of public life have seen more or little how this full procedure was carried out - he pointed out.
Bodnar: There was no force from the Prime Minister
Piotr Witwicki He asked if the erstwhile Minister of Justice agreed with the conviction that a strong settlement of the Law and Justice Office, which is simply a warrant of the triumph of the second word of the KO, is the problem elsewhere?
- I'm sorry. I treated settlements in terms of respect for standards of public life, public morality, standards of functioning of the state. I think it's a very crucial subject. But you gotta do it right, step by step, So that these cases may later have a chance to last in the courts. That's why they gotta go on," he said.
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- I'm sorry. Back to that charge of slow settlement. You didn't mention the names, possibly I'll call 2 or three: Bartosz Arlukovichwhether Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz, crucial Platform politicians, regularly bit you somewhere that you failed to deal with the prosecutor's office that there are many alleged PiS-sowski deposits among investigators. How many times have you encountered akin pressure, suggestions from the Prime Minister? - journalists asked.
- I'm sorry. There were no specified suggestions. The Prime Minister is well aware that in order for this to work, it must be moving at a certain pace. On the another hand, those people whom the editor mentioned and besides mentioned earlier patron of Gierty, created specified a circumstantial atmosphere around these activities - the erstwhile Minister of Justice replied.
As he explained, "there were moments that even erstwhile very circumstantial things were moving forward and there were concrete results, for example, further repealed immunitys were treated on the basis of "yes, but what if this case is moving forward, as there is no indictment on this case yet, as individual is not sitting, as has not yet happened 1 or another story".
- I'm sorry. I have always responded - not to these politicians, but to the media in general -: look at the statistics. Did we have a different period in Polish past erstwhile so many immunitys would be waived? Did we have a situation in which the erstwhile Prime Minister would be charged? This is an absolutely unprecedented thing in Polish history - Bodnar said.
"There was no good solution at the end"
The politician reiterated that in his opinion the consequence of the presidential election "disturbed specified an average view of the situation" regarding changes in the judiciary. - And that's what the full thing was all about. dispute over the results of the presidential election and the translation of votes and protests - supplemented.
In his opinion, the issue concerning electoral protests was "a communicative where there was no good solution at the end".
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