"We felt that if there was no shock, the parliament would one more time forget about services that could not protest" Marek Biernacki spoke about the financial condition of Polish peculiar services in "Politic WF with guest". MP of PSL, and erstwhile a minister, added that Poland's relations with the safety Service of Ukraine were re-established only after the change of power, despite the ongoing war.
The man who "eats teeth in the Polish country" Piotr Witwicki and Marcin Fijolek his interviewer from Sunday's "Politic PE with guest": Marek Biernacki. In more than 20 years, he has been, among others, the head of the Ministry of Interior and Administration and Justice, as well as the Minister of peculiar Services.
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He is presently an MP PSL, and he sits on the committee on specials. Biernacki - asked about recent acts of diversion on railways in Mazowsze and Lublin - he revealed on the air Polsat News that Poland did not establish contact with the safety Service of Ukraine until after the government took over..
- I'm sorry. Mariusz Kamiński... I don't want to burden him. Let's just say, at the time, the head office. She assumed that SBU was heavy infiltrated by the Russians. and felt that it was impossible to keep in contact with her due to the fact that we would be passing on information, possibly to the Russians... The erstwhile SBU chieftains hid their families in Poland, but with erstwhile officers ABWwho were already retired – it was a paradox besides – he noted.
VIDEO: "Politic PE with guest". Marek Biernacki in conversation with Piotr Witwicki and Marcin Fijołek
Is there no money for peculiar Services? "Rebuilding of the east Front"
As Biernacki assured, erstwhile coordinating peculiar services in his office Ewa DiggerHe had good relations with SBU. - What is most important, (later - ed.) there were no contacts, no relationships and It's a mystery to me that should be explained: why contacts with HUR, or Ukrainian military intelligence that was built by Americans, were broken, he pointed out.
On the air, Polsat News indicated that the contacts were re-established by the Tusk government and added that the reconstruction of ABW delegations liquidated during the PiS period in any regions of the country is besides ongoing. - The full east front is being rebuilt. I see, as if the delegations were liquidated in the west, possibly in the south, But not in the east - the PSL politician was surprised.
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He besides stated that corrective measures were being taken despite a weak budget, as Marcin Fijołek reacted to. - There was a minute erstwhile the Sejm committee, where the majority has a government coalition, gave a negative opinion on the draft budget for the services. The rulers request more money for the services, including you. It's how it works: Can't you ask the finance minister for money? - asking questions.
- I'm not going to hide, I was 1 of the people who recommended (negative opinion - ed.) due to the fact that I thought This budget is the budget behind the weak. It cannot be that ABW officers have 1 of the worst multipliers; that the Intelligence Agency, which is fighting a terrible war with the East, provides preemptive information - that for this year its budget is not so advanced - explained Biernacki.
Marek Biernacki: If there is no shock, the service will be forgotten again
Piotr Witwicki noted that Poland is weak in terms of financing specialities in Europe, spending little than Romania. - We're chasing Romania. Therefore, in our committee, feeling responsible..., we considered that If there is no shock, what our reaction will be, it is in Parliament with needs and various claims that 1 forgets the service again - the erstwhile minister replied.
As he completed, the peculiar Services "cannot shout, cannot protest, cannot make claims". - Everyone's gonna say, "And we'll kind it out later." We have come to the conclusion that this can no longer be the case. That we promised, so We gotta keep our word. - declared Biernacki in "Politic PE with guest".
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He explained that Military Intelligence Service and Military Counterintelligence Service have already been "strongly reinforced financially", but now to meet the needs of another formations about half a billion zlotys are missing. "As far as I know, Minister Tomasz Siemoniak (current coordinator for specialsługb - ed.) is working very intensively and has won any sums. And the large money, he said.
Marcin Fjołek asked, "how is it possible that in a time of hybrid war, where we have arson, or threats, like now the diversion, lack of serious equipment for peculiar services". - You're right, we request resources. But all of a sudden, we say, "No health, no teachers, no problems with miners, no farming." And abruptly All groups are screaming loud, right? - Biernacki signed.
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