In a fresh episode of the Defence24 podcast “Office of strategical Operations”, we return to the 1st legislature of civilian Protection and civilian defence “Resilience 2023". Considering the importance of the debate on resilience in Poland in the context of strategical challenges that are facing you now and will be noticeable in the coming years. Trying to measurement with the stereotype that only building a military component will supply the Polish safety and defence strategy with Russia's policy in mind. At the same time, in the latest episode you can hear commentary referring to the controversy arising from the words spoken by French president E. Macron. He mentioned, in the context of his visit to China, that Europe needs strategical autonomy and should not always go the way set by American policy.