– Christ wins by losing. specified are the strength and logic of the Cross. possibly Christ will want to lead to a situation that after the era of glory and popularity, the Church in our homeland will become a whipping boy, a scapegoat, will bring the evil of this planet on itself and will be recognized as a villain itself. In this way, he will become akin to Jesus tormented on Golgotha. A prophet must frequently endure and be insulted – says Fr. Prof. Robert Skrzypczak in an interview with Jakub Pacan.