PiS politicians defend Nawrocki. What'd they say about the Kibol fights over the years?

Jarosław Kaczyński, who was asked about the kibolian settings in which Karol Nawrocki participated, admitted that his brother Lech "also in specified settings, meaning fights, participated". In the past, however, PiS politicians - including Lech Kaczyński himself - spoke little enthusiastically about the actions of pseudo-kibs and tightened the law to fight the bills. Zbigniew Ziobro and Mateusz Morawiecki, among others, spoke in archival recordings.