Podcast “Things In It”: Donald Tusk about the end of “the naive globalisation”. Who was naive?

The planet was not naive at all. We, any of our elites, were naive about globalisation and the European Union," said Kazimierz Michał Ujazdowski, Senator of the 3rd Way, in the podcast “Things in this”, asked about Donald Tusk's words about the end of naive globalisation.