Marcin Drewicz: Borders of Ukraine Part 3

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Marcin Drewicz: The border of Ukraine by reason you will not understand, or repeat from more than a 100 years ago, par.3.

There, in the East, the communicative of a 100 years ago, which we are not trying to tell together enough, must most likely be well known and understood at the level of the General Staff. And this including this thread, as reported by the mass media, of trespasses a fewer months ago (2024) of Ukrainian troops on the outskirts of Russia's Kursk circuit.

We here do not decide whether this region is identical to the mentioned Starodub. However, this next war movement – which is now silent as well as everything – can be interpreted as another mention made by the fighting parties to the past of the past, but besides to the condition of 1918 and to the fewer later divisions made between the Soviets riespublicami during the establishment of a state existence called the Union of Socialist Republics of Soviets (1922). There must have been any boundaries between the “brotherly” union republics.

But why was the territory of russian Ukraine, already ruled by Moscow, left almost as vast as the Germans wanted? Ukrainians, too. From the texts we read we conclude that in conditions of totalitarian mega-state communist interior division, after all only administrative, did not play a role.

And, as this at least known to us (as opposed to this unknown) communicative of the 4th century 1991-2013, even the divided of the erstwhile Soviet-Russian area into separate state entities did not origin much problem there until in 1 of these "insubordinate states" (Community of Independent States) the activity of abroad civilization forces, the alleged Western, external (!) against that vast post-Soviet region took place. But this is simply a subject for separate publication.

Atoli... not just administrative division. It forgets about the policy of the NEP (we leave this word here as mostly understood) which already falls straight into the post-revolutional 1920s, but besides about the russian national policy which was coupled with the NEP. The aim was to make so late moved, and this bloodyly, hopes of independency of the "nations of Russia" to have broad autonomy under the fresh "best of the systems", headed by cultural and linguistic autonomy, so to immediately reduce the centrifugal tendencies in this vast "state of workers and peasants".

And indeed, as extended the Ukrainianization of life as the 1 in russian Ukraine in the 1920s, did not return until after 1991. A careful reader will add that that first decade of russian power began with 1 holodomor, or a large famine (in specified an incredibly fertile land!), and ended another. But the region holodomor It besides extended far into cultural Russian lands – to likewise fertile vocations.

Ukrainian historians themselves admit that the general Ukrainian intelligence of the time a 100 years ago was adequate autonomy within the national Russian state, in the final case of the Bolsheviks (sic!). We will not go far beyond the subject of strictly state boundaries set in the field, erstwhile we remind, let us call it, the dynamic policy of the Ukrainian Central Council, a formation composed of left-wing activists, led in the late 1917/1918.

But in the field, UCR authorities had small influence and their regulations were treated freely. The present example of the progressing bloody anarchy is Ukraine starting with the February Revolution of 1917, as we read in all Polish (and not only Polish) memoirs and memoirs from that country and from that historical period.

After the bolshevik gulf (called “for the commune” of the large Socialist Revolution of October) The Ukrainian Central Council in its 3rd University to the nation of 20 November 1917 announced that Ukraine should be a country with socialist government within the national Russian state, but for Bolshevik (sic!). specified were, in general, the political horizons of the majority of Ukrainian intelligence at the time.

But only a fewer winter weeks have passed, during which the bolsheviks did not in vain establish in December of the same memorable 1917 their rival to UCR agentura for Ukraine in the form of the Ukrainian Workers' and Peasants' Republic (the name of this political creation over time evolved) and its People's Secretariat based in Kharkov. But the secret German diplomacy has not been idle either.

So after the end of the next fewer winter weeks, on January 25, 1918, UCR issued this IV University, which treats no longer the conditions and nature of the relation with Russia, but the full independency of a state called the Ukrainian People's Republic, free of dependence on Russia and its Bolshevik authorities. But it is known that independency is not "full", but even maintained by Germany and Austro-Hungary.

When, after respective days of the turn of January and February 1918, representatives of these powers signed this first Treaty of Brzeski (9 February), the 1 with Ukrainians, the Bolsheviks just scored on the Ukrainians of Kiev (the first time); erstwhile after a fewer weeks they signed the Second Treaty, with the Bolsheviks (3 March), these were just thrown out of Kiev by the Germans.

In April of the same 1918, this socialist UCR was mentioned by the Germans as a right-wing hetman, and the troops of central states, due to the fact that not Ukrainian, cleared the territory of the Ukrainian Derivation from at least these regular Bolshevik formations. So the government of the “Soviet Ukraine”, this People's Secretariat, took refuge, but briefly, to... Taganrog over Don.

Already “for russian power”, due to the fact that in 1924 it was decided that this city, and so the whole, bilaterally, exit of Donu to the Azowski Sea, should belong... to the “Soviet brother” of Russia, not to the “Soviet brother” of Ukraine; along with it, part of the close mining area called the Shahta.

Taganrog is located close the erstwhile Turkish seaside fortress Azov (map!). The armies of the Moscow Tsar Peter the large captured this facility for the first time in 1696, but respective decades earlier the Donsk Cossacks had reached for it. In 1739 (or a small later) Azov and the region permanently fell to Russia, becoming her first gateway to the warm seas of the South. Well, but – a map! map! – Moscow troops had previously from the far north to the Black Sea, where you could walk or sail the Don River, stopping the areas travelled under the authority of your monarch. Isn't it?

And here begins – which we no longer undertake – the communicative of this Novhorosia. The water way of Don, but besides Donca, plays an crucial function in it; the water way of Dniepru of course besides (e.g. the celebrated gathering of King Stanislaw August Poniatowski with Tsar Catherine in Kaniów in 1787).

Let's take a look at this caesium: 1696-1787 and ask. Has the Polish side besides made a movement towards the Black Sea in that century – military, settler, Catholic-evangelization, investment, economic, commercial? If not, why not? Yes, these immediate initiatives, as it turned out, were not enough.

Today, Poland is silent about these issues which are the subject of this statement; many another crucial matters are besides discussed. We are puzzled and disturbed. After all, ignorance caused by specified silence leads to destruction. many pathologies of the current social life in Poland are explained especially in this 4th of the century, the destructive operation of the strategy of advanced school 3+3, which is simply the absence of advanced school. The current school strategy 8+4 is almost no better, and at the same time it is built up with late unknown, increasingly unusual (dez) organizational and legal-social pathologies.

And 1 more thing. If in the Post-Soviet region there was a immense territorial conflict, a conflict over the borders of the states, why was it not resolved in 1991, at the time of the division of the russian Union or shortly after? Since it was then possible to organize not even the pro-Ukrainian (map!) but the pro-Russian (map!) diversion on this by a little-remembered Transnistrian.

"In 1991 or shortly after...". Exactly! shortly after, not besides far from Ukraine, the first Chechen War broke out (1994-1996). Its organization was necessarily the Russian Federation. We ask if we don't know:

What, then, was the deepest genesis of the Chechen War? Did it have anything to do, indirectly, with the case of the “eastern disputed circuits of Ukraine”? For 1 avoids war at the same time on 2 or more fronts. Thus, the Second Chechen War continued (1999-2009).

As part of the tv series Wide Tracks, the aftermath of these disputes was shown in Chechnya as part of the Russian Federation, after all, an autonomous muslim republic, which they can envy in many affected by the Western liberalism of the arabian country and another Muslims. What, then, did nearly a generation argue, and what were they fighting about? How small we know about all this.

How this communicative repeats, but... never the same. Over a 100 years ago, we had this scale:

The promoters of at least the formal independency of Ukraine were Germany; the Bolsheviks spread the instrument of Ukrainian autonomy (only Bolsheviks) within the framework of the large (bolshevik) Russia, which was about in line with the sentiments of all politically active Ukrainians; while the white Russians (white-gowards) yet stood in the position of Russia "Jedinoj and Niedylimoj", without any national independency (except Poland west of Bug).

So the French, English and American (meaning Entent) inactive seeking a triumph against the red Bolsheviks of white Russia, independency of Ukraine, and this in addition as a ‘German’ case, could not support. Even with the support of Poland's independency they had serious resistance, for the same reasons. After all, the revived Regency Kingdom of Poland was both earlier and more heavy placed part of the German Mitteleuropa, than Ukraine; and Poland besides demanded broad areas of "Russian land".

In the case of Ukraine, in Poland alone, there were at least 2 posts, not here.

erstwhile Germany was obliged to evacuate its troops from the East (where they were victorious!), which threatened to fall, among another things, and especially Ukraine in the perplexes of revolutionary anarchy (and so it shortly happened), hetman Pawło Skelepadski, who as a advanced Russian officer (in any period of the life of the adjutant of Tsar Nicholas II himself) had previously fought against the Germans for almost 4 years, made a distinctive motion towards Ententa, but an ally of Tsar/White Russia.

This is erstwhile the French, British and Greek troops (!) already, were heading across the sea to Odessa and to Sevastopol, he in the name of establishing relations in a fresh political reality declared a return to a state before the fresh Treaty of Brest, so... an autonomous participation already, due to the fact that not independent Ukraine in a large national Russian state, but not Bolshevik. However, this decision remained without consequences, and the captain himself shortly had to leave Kiev for Germany.

This message was not meant to be about Poland, nor about Poles. But that communicative doesn't even let separation. So let's take just 1 theme, with many. This is due to the fact that in the same days (!) of 1918, our celebrated 4. A firearm Division composed of Canniovians (!) and Zagonians (!), commanded by Gen. Lutian Żeligowski Gun... Odessa before... Ukrainian petlurists (so brotherly enemies of Ukrainian hetmanishia).

This division continues waiting for the landings going to aid the white Russia and the friendly Poles of French allies (distrusted against the hetman), after which it later beats the Bolsheviks (they rush to beat everyone), besides in close Tiraspol, to yet – what was later praised – as the only Polish formation from the East with a weapon and in a compact formation returns (through Besarabia-Romania) to Poland, i.e. on Podole (!) to be here immediately... But this is simply a different story, although besides Polish-Ukrainian.

It was there and then political-war loops.

It remains for us not to know for a time which is the most urgent to express the SOLUTION AND BUILDING (!), that all of these very informative (!) stories were BRUTHLY AMOUNTED in Poland between 2017 and 2022, for which were the SETNE YEARS of those epochal and very concentrated (!) events at the same time, and that these stories were widely AMOUNTED !!!

Yes, any valuable but fewer publications then appeared, but for those who knew before. But to these broad and broad crowds of our people, no cognition has reached.

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