... Deputy Minister: How does Kaczyński regulation people? Let me give you an example. A fellow minister went to meet Jarosław. He tells him what's going on in the resort. At 1 point, the president asks him about the situation in his constituency. So a colleague begins to calculate how many conferences they have organised, what initiatives they have taken. Jarek interrupted him: “But I am not asking. I want to know who is presently eating with whom."
Senator: – Kaczyński, the reminiscent of all right-wing disasters, consistently built his party, managing it on a conflict basis. I mean, there were always 2 groups or 3 in the field that competed.
