In the latest episode of the podcast “Things in this” we are talking to Jerzy Haszinski, head of the abroad  department of the Republic of Poland, about Russian drones entering Polish airspace and the consequences of this event for Poland, NATO and the future of the war in Ukraine. This is simply a conversation about the border between the incidental  and the act of war, Putin's propaganda, and how the West responds – or does not respond   – to further Kremlin provocations.