In a conversation with Bogdan Rymanowski, in a podcast led by a journalist, Karol Nawrocki stated that the storm around the apartment, which the candidate was to take from Jerzy Z., was "operational play in consultation with media and services".
– For the past 2 months, we've had information that My briefcase. the procedure for access to classified information circulates. individual will gotta answer for it," he said.
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Inquired by Rymanowski about the allegations surrounding him, Nawrocki will retreat from the presidential race, this amazed 1 asked: “Mr. editor joking?” He declared powerfully that He won't quit that election run.
Karol Nawrocki on the care of Mr. Jerzy. The ‘intense’ was ‘different’
– As for the relation with Jerzy Z., I have helped a man for many years and I have nothing to blame myself for. – said Karol Nawrocki.
The presidential candidate was asked erstwhile he met an older man. – I was 24-25 years old., it was 2007-2008 we started talking, then he was already in the care of social assistance, sometimes I helped him as much as I could – explained the president of IPN.
He besides stated that "aid has gone beyond its capabilities". “The individual was promising that possible aid would lead him to a consecutive path,” Nawrocka said.
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– Whether I took care of Mr. D. or not, I bought the flat legally, by handing Mr.Jerzem, according to the purchase-sale agreement, circumstantial financial resources over 14 years, these are 2011-2025," said the presidential candidate.
He said “intensity” with which the elder took care was “various, depending on his duties”. “After 2021 it was smaller due to the fact that I moved to Warsaw due to the fact that I became the president of IPN,” said the presidential candidate.
– After all the fuss, he called me friend, who, erstwhile I could not aid Jerzy Z. after his call to me, and could not be in Gdańsk, gave me a code to the home of Jerzy Z., saying, “in your name I was carrying money erstwhile Jerzy Z. had problems,” Nawrocki said.
- Mine. son, present he wrote to me: our buying together for Jerzy Zz. We bought him a TV, as well as our visit to Easter – the president of the IPN continued.
The confusion around Karol Nawrocki's apartment. The candidate is talking about a babysitter.
According to Nawrocki, on the 1 hand, ‘there is simply a case of a peculiar flat which is legally acquired’ and on the another hand, ‘it is honorary, noble agreementthat he will bury Jerzy Z.’.
– I don't have access to it. in connection with the full operation which takes place," added Nawrocki.
When asked why he was not looking for Jerzy Z., the president of the IPN denied. – I was looking for Jerzy Z., with the neighbour who lives there, we established circumstantial things, I was looking on my own., although neither in accordance with the law nor obligations towards this apartment, I did not gotta do so," he said.
– I have been doing this for many years, besides after 2017. I'm not Mr. George Z's family. I don't have access to information about Jerzy Dz. said Nawrocki.
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Rymanowski quoted words Senior nannyThe social individual who took care of him. “For many years I was the only individual who was able to aid Jerzy Z.,” said Nawrocki.
– If those who aid him had good intentions, they would call My telephone number, which Jerzy Z. has been in his 20s. and utilized respective twelve times in fresh years – added the presidential candidate.
In his opinion, the babysitter is "ideologically active on the Citizen Platform".
Charles Nawrocki was to take over Mr. George's apartment. Candidate for translation
Rymanowski asked if purchase of an apartment it dates back to 2011, erstwhile it was possible to buy it for 10 percent of the value.
That's what you regulated, George. There was an option to buy out this apartment, for which Mr Jerzy needed funds. I gave him the money. hard earned in extra work “I was earning modestly as a private worker of the IPN,” Nawrocki replied.
– Thanks to my boss, I was given the chance to co-create the European Solidarity Centre, where I performed contract order. I earned money and gave Mr.Jerzem, to pay the backlog in municipal rents, to have unpaid bills and to complete the formalities for the acquisition of the municipal apartment," he explained.
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He stated that he had handed over J. PLN 20,000. There were fees, notary patrons. I will not say that precisely – stated the presidential candidate.
He continued to say that he had signed a pre-sale agreement which "regulates their obligations towards themselves." – Refers to the marketplace price PLN 120 thousand and is simply a certain warrant that these funds in a peculiar expression will be transferred to Jeriem Z, taking into account the costs that have been incurred, but not taking into account the things that I do with a good heart and which I can afford," said the president of the IPN.
The presidential candidate confirmed that he was handing over money to seniors in instalments. “This was the only thing that started before writing this preliminary agreement, and I invested funds in it, at the request of Mr Jerzy, giving him funds to buy out the apartment,” Nawrocki said.
– These are the years in which this amount, at first more, later less, is paid in full," added the president of the IPN. In his opinion, "the case is clean and we are dealing with an operational game". – I think that marketplace amount of PLN 120 1000 we exceeded Nawrocki assessed.
