Cheap electricity, large investments and unity alternatively of tensions in the Law and Justice. Janusz Cieszynski not only defends the achievements of the Law and respects Jarosław Kaczyński, but besides powerfully attacks the government and responds to allegations concerning the zondacrypto scandal.
It does not answer unequivocally whether Mateusz Morawiecki would be a better candidate for Prime Minister, following the decision of the president of the Law and Justice organization that Przemysław Czarnek is to service this function in the future government. However, the belief that Morawiecki was an efficient Prime Minister is resounding, so he would have worked in this role.
It blames the European Union's actions on energy and taxation policy for deficiency of competitiveness, but it is Donald Tusk who blames work for rising unemployment and deficiency of major economical programmes.
In the conversation Janusz Cieszynski besides refers to the financing of the CPAC conference by zondacrypto just before the second circular of the presidential election. He besides makes a clear comment on the adoption of measures from Przemysław Kral by the Zbigniew Ziobro Foundation.
"Kaczyński is simply a actual leader"
Janusz Cieszynski makes it clear – there is no place in the PiS to challenge Jarosław Kaczyński's position.
Mr. president is simply a real leader. Very frequently people think that this policy is specified a 100 percent cynicism and there is nothing there. It's not. erstwhile I had all kinds of problems in my career, I always knew I could number on him. And specified things are not forgotten," says the PiS MP.
He besides stresses the importance of Mateusz Morawiecki, although the organization present points to Przemysław Czarnek as future Prime Minister.
– I am 1 of the biggest fans of Mateusz Morawiecki. I think he was an excellent prime minister who led us through very hard times with large craftsmanship. Today, however, the candidate of Law and Justice for Prime Minister is Przemysław Czarnek. And this is the individual we stand for now, due to the fact that the political party, which changes decisions all moment, will never be able to gain the support of the public – says Cieszynski.
Europe in "trap" and mistakes for which Poles will "pay"
The PiS politician does not leave a dry thread on EU climate policy.
– Today, Europe has lost its long-term competitiveness. Energy prices find where artificial intelligence and data centres develop. If they are much lower in the US or China, that is where investments are made. At the same time, European law prohibits the processing of data outside Europe – we ourselves have fallen into a vicious ellipse – says the interviewer on the subject.
Cieszynski argues that PiS left behind ready-to-use projects that were stopped, specified as the Central Communication Port (CPK).
– In six years work was done, which would usually take a decade. The task was ready to be implemented and was inactive stopped. First they wanted to throw it in the basket, and erstwhile people got angry – they pulled it back – he says.
Zondacrypto? Wine Tusk
However, the most tense minute of conversation concerns the zondacrypto affair. Janusz Cieński powerfully rejects the work of the Law and Justice and transfers it to the current government, and even personally Donald Tusk.
It resembles the AmberGold affair and claims that "always, erstwhile Tusk rules, there is simply a financial scandal". However, the same analogy does not apply to the GetBack affair with bad bonds erstwhile the Prime Minister was Mateusz Morawiecki and the Law and Justice ruled.
– At the minute erstwhile doubts arose about this stock exchange, Donald Tusk ruled. He didn't do anything about it. He utilized client injury as a political baton against Law and Justice. It is the government that is liable for the safety of the money of Poles," says PiS MP.
With respect to CPAC backing by zondacrypto – a conference attended by Karol Nawrocki, which took place for a fewer days by the second circular of the presidential election, Janusz Cieszynski sees no problem. He claims that this is simply a sponsorship agreement like any other, that it is hard to blame Juventus Turin for the fact that he is sponsored by this company.
On the financing of Zbigniew Ziobro Foundation by the president of zondacrypto Przemysław Krala, Cieszynski has a stronger position.
– I think Zbigniew Ziobro and his foundation should return all the money they got from zondacrypto. You shouldn't take money from places like this. I think that money should go back to the customers who were injured in it," says the interviewer on Thematic.
The politician besides stresses that earlier – during the regulation of the Law and Justice – there were warnings from state institutions.
"The Financial Supervision Commission has repeatedly warned not to place money there. This company ran out of Poland just due to the fact that there were doubts. If the state acted as it should, it was essential to contact a abroad regulator and check the situation before the problem grew to specified a size – says Janusz Cieszynski.
The dispute over zondacrypto and the future of the Polish economy and about the further direction of the Law and Justice organization shows how sharp divisions in Polish politics are today.
The full conversation reveals even more – it is worth seeing it entirely on our YouTube channel on the subject.
