Kaczyński to Holownia: I want to talk as Prime Minister

As TVN’s “Facts” established, the discussion afraid the election of Members of the National Judicial Council, which was held during this meeting. Kaczyński, who is Deputy Prime Minister in the Morawiecki Government, approached the talker of the Sejm and as agreed, said, “I am Prime Minister, I want to speak.”

To which Holovnia replied, “Mr President, I have already allowed ministers to vote”.

Kaczyński yet did not talk from the parliament platform and returned to his place.

We don't know what case the president had, but we know that the times of telling the Marshal of the Sejm what to do are over. pic.twitter.com/7oF4NjPhBj

— TVN24 Contact Glass (@SzkContact) November 14, 2023

According to TVN24, politicians who saw the situation reported that the president of the Law and Justice organization had repeatedly said that he was Prime Minister and had the right to speak. However, it did not work, and he had to return to his place without taking the privilege of speaking out of order.

It is besides worth paying attention to the behaviour of Czarnek and Ziebra, who provoked the Holovnia. The Marshal of the Sejm Simon Holovnia had to give the level to these politicians in accordance with the regulations. Zbigniew Ziobro was the first to appear on the speaker, who spoke about the adherence to the constitution and – in the context of political opponents – “fowl”. The voice was besides decided to be taken by Przemysław Czarnek, who called the Holovnia a "rotative marshal".