Good morning, Mr President, thank you very much for gathering me and for the chance to conduct this short interview. For starters, the current question. PiS announced the introduction of "800 plus" in Poland, buying voters' votes for their money. Is there inactive democracy in Poland, or is it already a flogging?
Janusz Korwin-Mikke: – Given that even criminals vote in prisons and crazy people in madhouses, this is definitely a cholecracy.
Is there, then, a limit to the corruption of the state and the corruption of the law? Currently, the full of Poland is following the case of the alleged “Lex Tusk”, that is, the committee appointed to track Russian influences. But Poland is not at war with the Russian Federation. We haven't even spoken to her about diplomatic relations. Is there a way to halt this madness?
– The problem is that the mob, like in chlocolation, is not guided by logic but by feelings. Therefore, he does not care about something logically coherent and so on. Questions about whether or not something is logical are just pointless. That doesn't interest anyone today. People (politicians – ed.) can say things contrary to each another and that is not of interest to anyone. If I said 1 thing that the crowd likes and the another thing that the crowd likes, then even if they're against each other, they'd inactive like it.
Our Readers are peculiarly curious in the situation in Ukraine. Of course, the war, but besides the Polish reactions to this war. Do you think Poland should be as committed as it is at the moment?
Poland is besides involved. It is in the interest of Poland, or rather, of Russia getting a small nose. adequate to weaken and to make His Excellency Alexander Lukashenko feel strong adequate to avoid the ZBiR again (the Union of Belarus and Russia – ed.), which he did for 20 years. I guess he didn't make it, but you should have tried. Instead, we overdid it. I like Russia very much, but the more I like it, the farther it is from Poland. Sleeping with a bear in 1 bed is very unpleasant. The Mexicans might say something about it, for example. We want Ukraine to be independent. We are pleased that Ukraine is independent. But whether the border goes where it goes, or where it goes now, or even further... This for Poland is meaningless. It is crucial that Ukraine is able to live, that is, let's say it preserves the Curved Horn and access to the sea. And I'm not curious in the rest. I am a supporter of a thesis that will not like Russia or Ukraine at all to form a series of independent republics that would not be Russia or Ukraine. Kharkiv, Donetsk, Taurish and Odska.
Interesting concept. A compromise is indeed a situation where both parties are dissatisfied...
– They'd both be dissatisfied, but that's a good idea.
There are more of these geopolitical ideas. late in Poland, in the circles of power and media, especially Scripts, a lot has been said about the concept of the alleged Polish-Ukrainian Union. It was a test balloon released towards society. How do you justice this concept?
– I have no thought if this concept is taken very seriously. Was it just a test of how people would react, specified a release of “red herring”? Or was it a stupid thought that our power is already withdrawing from. I have no idea. We request to be clear: 1 can tell what a wise man thinks, while the idiot's way of reasoning is impossible to predict.
Anti-war moods are increasing in Poland. More and more voices are talking about the threat of managing Poland into the war in Ukraine. How do you view this possible threat?
– BRICS is now being formed. He's about to rip out the American monopoly on the planet currency. So right now, Americans can bet on planet war if there's a chance that BRICS won't rise. I have no thought which concept will win the Pentagon and the White House. It's hard for me to say. Besides, it's not so much the White home decides as the National safety Council. The Americans are trying to keep the planet war out. But there were quite a few people who wanted there to be no war, and then they kind of made it so that it was... I'm very afraid they'll drag us into this war. The zeal of the PiS, which is truly condemnable in this planet war.
So, paradoxically, Poland is more militant and the Anglo-Saxons can halt us from war?
– The Anglo-Saxon goal is to weaken Russia: let the Ukrainians fight to the last Ukrainian. We will support them to weaken Russia. However, as I mentioned, Polish idiots rule. And they apply the rule: let half of Poland be killed if all Russia dies. I am not a supporter of this policy. Not only due to the fact that I don't want half of Poland to die, but I besides don't want all Russia to die. due to the fact that individual has to watch Ukraine from the another side.
Mr President, 1 last question. Your colleague from the parliamentary club, Mr Grzegorz Braun, very powerfully emphasises the threat of the Ukrainianisation of Poland. Do you see specified a threat that Poland will be nationalised?
– My friend Braun and I have different electorates. any talk about money, others talk about Ukrainianization. I'm not afraid of that. Why? Before the war, the nationalists did not want besides many Belarusian and besides many Ukrainian lands to be admitted to Poland in the Treaty of Riga, due to the fact that it was only said that if 10% of this was done, it could be colonized. Now we have 10% of Ukrainians and let's polish them (Laughter).
Thank you so much for talking to me.
Talked to Przemysław Piasta
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Think Poland, No. 25-26 (18-25.06.2023)
