Jacin: AI will take the best jobs if this program does not arise

Prof. Małgorzata Jacino and I are discussing how "new technologies" are an excuse to destruct jobs and make fresh jobs – low-paid, temporary and without guarantees under labour law.

In the Polish public debate, 99% of experts tell us that we have nothing to fear erstwhile it comes to technological unemployment and algorithmic management. That people will find a occupation in fresh competitions. Generally, we will live better, due to the fact that fresh technologies will make our work easier, and the saved time will be utilized to make our interests and hobbies. On the another hand, Bill Gates states: “People will not be needed for most things”. How do you comment?

How artificial intelligence, algorithms and fresh technologies will change social reality – it is unknown. That's the only honest answer right now.

New technologies are enigma.

And we don't know how they're going to respond to the spread of Western societies.

It seems to me that the problem with these questions and these diagnoses is partially due to the rhetoric utilized to talk about fresh technologies. It is an economical but besides legal and political phenomenon. What is referred to as fresh technologies includes various possibilities and tasks – facial designation and temper recognition, street surveillance, institutions, jobs, customers and exile camps, biometric passports, drones, autonomous cars, data collection and processing, diagnostics, spy programs, text writing and movie making, teaching and therapy programs, and automation. any forms of surveillance have been in operation for more than a decade, any have been experimentally introduced and are now legalized.

→ Algorithms at work. How do they change the labour marketplace and who is responsible? •Dorota Merecz-Kot, Małgorzata Jankowska

Larry Ellison says the SI will make people behave better. "New technologies" (so called for persuasion reasons) give the main problem we are facing. As any say, we are aware of the 21st century people, but the reality in which we live is alternatively akin to the 18th and 19th centuries. In the social imagination, reality is inactive a "global village", exchanges, flows and fleeting or intangible phenomena. Meanwhile, the planet becomes more material overnight in all sense of the word.

There is unprecedented concentration of power, real resources are regained, transactional approaches, military strength and discipline.

It is not by chance that the issue of fresh technologies appears in the plutocracy system.

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How do you specify plutucracy?

It's a strategy of the regulation of wealthy people who compose laws that increase their power and influence.

Their presence has been increasingly ostentatious for a decade. Sometimes they are satisfied with the function of experts, but they talk more and more like prophets, predicting the future of mankind.

They besides do not know what the effects of implementing fresh technologies will be, but they do not gotta worry about that due to the fact that they are not responsible.

The consequences and costs of their decisions are always passed on to society.

In fresh weeks it has been read that in more than half of cases, the SI programme is restarted despite the shutdown, Euro-Parliamentarians have been banned from utilizing the SI, and tracking programs can work through phones scanning the available networks around the clock. The deceased Aaron Swartz downloaded respective million articles, for which he was facing 95 years in prison, while the corporations collect millions of books to teach the AI, and no 1 always charged them.

Economic activity and crime become indistinguishable.

European politicians talk about digital sovereignty, but Europe is simply a battlefield for power influence. There is no longer a day without information about hacked digital identity systems, individual data theft, "discursion" of medical data or mass sales of client information.

The energy costs associated with the operation of fresh technologies are besides very unknown, which could yet put an end to Europe's chances of digital sovereignty.

The fragile and unreliable energy strategy and advanced energy prices make any people uncertainty whether Europe will even be able to afford data centres.

Hundreds of thousands of jobs vanish in Europe due to disindustrialisation, not through automation or artificial intelligence. We are besides observing the escape of European computer scientists and specialists educated in sciences to Canada, the United States and Asia, due to the fact that they are offered low wages on our continent. The failure of jobs as a consequence of fresh technologies is simply a real threat. However, if our concerns are reduced to fear of work, it shows that in the media debate our imagination has already been depleted to concern whether we will have something to put in the pot.

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First, the concept of work only appeared in the Western imagination in the 11th century. The Bible speaks not of work, but of labor, effort, and activity. Secondly, there is something very depressing about speaking especially present about the fear of occupation disappearance. Neglected and decaying city centres, ageing and spreading infrastructure, deprived people and medical assistance, children with difficulties at school, young people who are incapable to even say and name their problems and people working 2 jobs to support themselves – to solve these problems and deal with it, it is essential to work, but it just so happens that there is no "job" to do it.

What does that mean for us?

The evolution of employment in Europe has been taking place for decades. Since the late 1970s, manufacturing jobs have disappeared in Western Europe. They were partially replaced by service work. At the same time, employment conditions are deteriorating due to the fact that labour law replaces various programmes "to make a pleasant atmosphere in the workplace". Students in Europe are forced to do a fewer jobs and inactive gotta usage food banks.

A real change in the discussion about the future of work is not about technology, but about the fact that technologies are utilized as a rhetorical veil to obscure the fact that we are in the process of systemic and systemic changes. The concentration of money, resources, and power in the hands of fewer has most likely been unprecedented in history. The pandemic, war and announcements of the spread of fresh technologies have become an chance to organise large financial flows. "New technologies" are referred to in order to make the current transformation purely method and inevitable. In another words, "new technologies" are an excuse to destruct jobs and make fresh jobs – low-paid, temporary and without guarantees under labour law.

If there's no occupation in the U.S., why do you hire kids there? If there is no occupation in the EU, why are immigrants planned to be brought back?

Finally, is it about occupation disappearance or occupation disappearance? Plutacracy tells people to face the threat – “you may lose the only right of your being, or labor.”

Meanwhile, what is called SI comes from the constant and organized capture of the achievements, skills, cognition and data about people. utilizing Marxist terms, we are presently dealing with expropriation on a mass scale of people with their competence, that is, a form of primitive accumulation of cultural capital.

→ Ronald Wright: What is America?

What is this expropriation of competence?

Expropriation is carried out, for example, by introducing detailed reporting, which is frequently complained about by medical personnel.

Well, filling the tables isn't as pointless as it seems. In this way various data are obtained on patients, on how to conduct medical interviews, medical procedures, diagnosis or therapy that is used. The contracts for the work I receive from any institutions very frequently contain a evidence that what I have presented as a work can be changed and sold, so I am no longer the author of my works.

Behind the clever word “self-learning artificial intelligence” lies the request of continuous human work.

The SI can only learn on condition that it is provided with fresh data that will let for adjustments and the acquisition of fresh skills.

In 2000, Bill Joy, an American computer engineer and programmer, wrote in a loud essay “Why does the future not request us?”: “(...) I may be working on developing tools for technology that can replace our species. How do I feel about that? Very bad.” What should we be alert to erstwhile listening to rhetoric around SI? Could you give me 3 ideas that should make people more vigilant?

The discussion about the SI has been targeted in any way. It is the advantage of those who have accumulated power that makes us see specified threats alternatively than another threats.

One can ask what we fear more – fresh technologies or the brutality and unpredictability of their implementation? Or would we have specified concerns in the democratic system? Western elites first apply the rhetoric of minimizing all risks, and only later, erstwhile problems arise, they instruct people – “not to be thoughtless”, “to be careful”, “to be sure”, etc. All risks and dangers are passed on to average people.

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It is likely that in the close future fresh technologies will enter into the current political system, which is characterized by advanced polarity, and individuals will ask not only: “What about my future?” but also: “What about my past?”. due to the fact that human data can not only be manufactured but besides utilized to destruct people.

What does this mean for average citizens?

If 2 political options are fighting on the political stage, it is possible that human elections, online entries, decisions, buying or tendencies will become a burden for them erstwhile power changes. American researchers have been writing about this for at least a decade. I would like to point out that the SI already has certain properties of the current political strategy programmed. During the pandemic period, “isolate” was desirable. The time of the pandemic was crucial for this reason, that the elite then revealed their imagination, namely, that the perfect is an isolated individual.

The single unit is simply a model of the operation of fresh technologies.

However, there are besides a number of actions aimed at stopping or giving borders to these processes. There are schools where teachers offer parents and children to resign from the screens. In any Western countries, it is planned to return to paper books, and students and scientists call for the extension of the contract on ChatGPT Edu. Finally, there are studies showing that the human body reacts as if it was dealing with stress. Memory and intellectual and linguistic skills are deteriorating. Studies in France show that children's competences are systematically falling. This applies to all classes: children of folk classes, but besides children of the advanced and mediate classes. Parents and children are enthusiastic about giving up fresh technologies.

→ School War for Attention in Europe: a change of approach to smartphones in education •Justyna Łobodzińska

Why?

Cédric Durand writes that investigation shows that the usage of SI deprives not only of competence but besides of motivation and makes people fall into a state of boredom and indifference much faster. The usage of SI is more efficient only erstwhile doing any work. Current investigation does not show how long productivity growth will continue.

The specificity of the usage of SI may make productivity growth primarily at the beginning and be possible at the expense of the quality of results.

A late conducted street probe has shown that young people in France can no longer read an hr from the clock’s shield, and this is not the consequence of utilizing any advanced tools, but from the screen. It should besides be remembered that digital corporations have an interest in employing such, not other, profit-convincing experts, and corporations promising to win the race with China can number on generous subsidies.

What is called the SI present may besides be problematic for local political elites who no longer have the power to manage these processes.

Therefore, politicians in Poland have stopped addressing the public – they only talk to their audience.

We are the ones who wonder, we ask what will happen next, whether we will have food, whether we will have medicines, what with medical equipment, whether it is possible to arm ourselves in the face of an embargo or blackmail from China.

None of the politicians or journalists ask how it happened that 1 of the largest countries in Europe has no atomic power plant. In 2011, a lecture was held, unknown in Poland, on what uranium resources are in the planet and what problems this may cause. Poland is excluded from this kind of dilemma. Polish elites have never won on the phase an global position that would let Poland to compete in this kind of competition. Therefore, the only thing that can be done right now is to adapt and produce on an ongoing basis narratives that confuse this unfavourable position.

Meanwhile, it becomes increasingly clear that we are surviving in a time of war in which all watt and all calorie is the object of the fight.

"It is possible to have its own repair plant, kiosk or ice cream booth to avoid the force of the management class, exerted by the standards of ethical communication and detached from the reality of the therapeutic language. This is an highly invasive class that has been delegated to what postcolonial theorists call man's grinding and reworking to the deepest core of personality," you say in an interview with the magazine "New Citizen". I think fresh technologies are very helpful.

The grinding of people takes place in blurring the border between the subject and the object.

Today, it is not known whether a man owns a telephone or whether a telephone is simply a man's owner.

The richly funded neurosciences that reduce human experience to chemical processes contributed to the dissolution of the boundary between the subject and the subject. Another example – about 20 million Americans sale plasma to private clinics. any of them buy food for their money to sale blood again in a fewer days. Human bodies are treated like plasma factories.

As far as managers are concerned, they are now besides at risk. During a conference held in 2025 in Italy, the main subject was the failure of work by managers and cultural workers. They are easy replaced by cheaper workers, specified as India. Unemployment is not only an economical issue, as presented in the media, but besides a moral issue. However, it is hard to anticipate solidarity with managers due to the fact that they are seen as those who have legitimized expropriation from labour law.

There is talk of at-risk jobs, but for decades it has been taking people to get utilized to the fact that privacy is not something valuable.

Sharing the mood, revealing all passing thought, informing everyone about their intimacy and diseases is presented in specified a way as to be an chance to emancipation, healing and the essence of social life. So we lose our jobs, but besides our privacy. another studies I've met say that the reaction to continuous supervision is the states of indifference, face gaining without expression, and entering states akin to catatonia. And this is not only about surveillance in the form of cameras on the streets or in institutions, but besides about being home.

All activities in the network are recorded, compiled and compared for the creation of a ‘profile’ of units. It is besides worth noting that it is frequently stressed that the created “profile” speaks the deepest fact about all man. The SI so usurbs present the right to talk the fact about man.

Ronald Wright, with whom we interviewed any time ago in the Week of civilian Affairs, he wrote in his book "A Brief past of Progress": "(...) we climbed the ladder of progress, breaking down lower levels along the way. There's no another way back than a disaster. In 1825, the planet population was about 1 billion. If industrial civilization were to collapse, the planet population would fall to a akin level. simply put, billions will die." How would you comment on this reflection in a historical context?

Another author – David Moscrop writes that the stake of SI is indeed the lives of many people, but he means something completely different. The rhetoric and applications of SI let certain boundaries of civilization to be exceeded. For example, applications that inform about the anticipation of replacing or performing a occupation will deprive people of the rhythm of life to date. They will have no privacy, no time after work, due to the fact that they will be expected to do a occupation around the clock.

→ Ronald Wright: A Brief past of Progress

Most will be people for rent for hours, servants, or – as the author says rather clearly – tossed with sacks of meat.

On the another hand, Antonio Casilli believes that fresh forms of employment legitimized by the alleged fresh technologies will make a man synonymous with the machine, due to the fact that it will be possible to usage the “on” and “off” applications around the clock. People are afraid of unemployment, but will those who have a occupation be happy about it?

You can die in different ways. Reactions to continuous supervision in the form of absence, catatonia, or, as any say, zombifiction can besides be understood as extinction of people. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most overwhelming symbol of the social crisis in the US is the districts of "zombie".

Jobseekers make avatars and apply for work in as many as a 100 places, and applications besides review SI and – as has late happened – all rejects them. It can be seen that this strategy takes on the characteristics of the financial strategy – it becomes self-returned, self-sufficient and creates a parallel world. And of course, 1 another anticipation we're talking about is war.

As any clearly note, a dead man is little costly to the state than an unemployed man.

European elites have completed the best universities and are maintained throughout their lives by societies. The authority and position of the elite fell rapidly and they are accused of double standards. What do double standards mean? That there are no standards. We must say goodbye to the thought of advancement utilized to give ourselves encouragement and hope. The historical process resembles zigzag.

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What does that mean?

Europe needs to redefine its coordinates and its identity. So far we have been a privileged continent – Europe has defined the identity of others and ethical standards. Europe is now in a different planet and must specify its function and its relation with others.

In Chinese elite schools, students learn Greek and Latin, that is, what was not needed in the labour market. Already any of the best educated people leave Western Europe due to the fact that they do not see the future for themselves here. There have been no ministries in European countries for a long time, due to the fact that there is simply a "market" and most likely due to this, government teams are expanding due to the fact that they service to supply jobs for politicians and not governance.

China has many assets that can be utilized in economical war, and Europe is no longer so needed by the US. It is convenient to translate everything into Trump, while it is about a process lasting respective decades, resulting in Donald Trump becoming president. The fresh ideas can arise thanks to the courage of confronting reality, not by maintaining the illusion of occupying the position that Europe had previously held and lost.

Europe is now, as Anton Jäger writes, a light shadow of rival empires – the United States and China.

It has late been heard that the digital euro will make everyone benefit due to the fact that it is simply a strategy that has already been tested and has proven itself in China. European politicians, wishing not to, or not to, communicate to societies what the future of Europe will be.

→ Technology planet War. Competition between the USA and China for global leadership

You reminded me of reading. book “Blood in a Machine”, published by the Jagiellonian University Publishing House, which deludes the propaganda associated with the Luddists, served to us for decades. As early as 1930, John Maynard Keynes, an English economist, wrote: “We are plagued by a fresh illness that readers may not yet know, but about which many will hear in the coming years – technological unemployment. This is unemployment resulting from the discovery of measures limiting the usage of labour. [These measures] do this faster than we are able to find fresh ways to usage the workforce.” What should Polish workers do today, who fear algorithmic management, i.e. management by the SI, and failure of employment as a consequence of ubiquitous automation, digitization and robotization? What advice do you have for them?

In different situations, in public places, from those we see for the first time and who we most likely will never meet again, you can number on aid and a communication smile. There are inactive places where polarization has disappeared since the turn of the 20th and 21st centuries. It's just hard to tell if these fresh social footprints will prove sufficient. If our present is like the 17th and 18th centuries erstwhile the empires were formed, it is worth adding that it was besides the time of pirates and the formation of grassroots forces – the sea's solidarityal proletariat.

What should we request from politicians today?

I would like to hear what kind of programme the protectionist policy advocates have.

Protectionist programs were the norm after planet War II and were consistently run by both political camps. Declarations about developing Poland made of steel and silicon can only be political rhetoric. There are certain reasons why Poland has taken specified a place, not another place in the value chain.

What should we then require from experts and ourselves?

As far as experts are concerned, their position and credibility are presently very low. Clearly, they are more active in legitimizing and explaining the decisions that have been made, and in polarizing societies, even if this would lead to civilian war.

I repeat, the problem is not possible unemployment or SI – the problem is their fetishization.

It's not technology that makes changes, it's plutacracy. The global caste functions through the acquisition of science, technology, finance and power. So what is the reason for being a state or a society-held politician, if the latter, as Peter Mair says, regulation a vacuum? The expropriation of politicians from power causes us to be forced to talk about SI in specified a way as people gotta prepare for the Apocalypse or invasion of alien civilization.

We have a political and economical model in which people are even encouraged to find their "victim" that can be exploited. It is worth noting that what was erstwhile condemned is presented as a norm today, and social Darwinism is naturalized by appealing for entrepreneurship or resilience.

→ Rafał Górski: Technological unemployment. Facts and myths •Rafał Górski

Imagine that you become an advisor to Prime Minister Donald Tusk or president Charles Nawrocki. What do you advise them about building the resilience of our society and our country to technological unemployment trends?

A comprehensive protectionist policy agenda must be established. A community must be built. There must be places where people can feel equal, experience brotherhood, and rebuild social ties. Without a sense of community of fate, neither society nor state can survive.

And what crucial question has no 1 always asked you on the topics we talk about, and what is the answer to them?

In Western countries, there is either no mention of Poland at all, or there is simply a division into an old and fresh Europe.

In the context of fresh technologies, possible expropriations and limitations of our imagination and a sense of community and subordination, I have late heard that in the countries of Central and east Europe, in the communist strategy of the 1970s, culture continued to develop. Culture is what makes it possible to go outside. erstwhile you're outside, you can see that hopelessness, as David Graeber said, is not a natural state, but is fabricated to destruct possible another futures.