Israel apartheid

Conversation with Mahmoud Khalifa, Ambassador of the State of Palestine to Poland

Mr. Ambassador, thank you for the chance to talk at specified a hard time. We would like to start with the information that is left out in Poland, i.e. what was the issue related to respect for human rights, spiritual rights or nationalities of the Gaza Strip population before the tragic events we are witnessing today?

– The best answer here is simply a quote from General Galanta, who just said that Palestinians are considered "animals". There's nothing fresh about it. And it is not only the "culture" of this peculiar man, but besides the full Israeli government. Similarly, Minister Ben-Gwir said that Israel's life is much more valuable than Palestinians. That it is Israelis who can decision freely on Palestinian land, but not Palestinians. Let us besides remind the Minister of Finance Smotrycz, who "dreamed" to burn our city. As for the current situation: we have talked about these various Western governments, whether from the European Union or the United States itself. But nobody listened to us. I think we should thank you for 75 years of business and denying us our rights. Over the last six months, the Israeli government has voted on further acts in Kneset that can be described as "apartheid" against Palestinians. Where in the planet is the second specified government?

Can the Gaza Strip be called “the top prison in the world”? How is it possible that about 2 million people live on specified a tiny patch of land?

– On the basis of the Oslo agreement, all Palestinian had the right to free movement throughout the country. Until the judaic nationalists murdered Gen. Rabin. It was an attack on the full agreement that allowed the Gaza Strip to make specified a large prison. But in fact all city in Palestine is like a ghetto, known to Poles very well from planet War II. We have no right to decision from town to town. The Gaza Strip itself is the most densely populated area in the world. The largest place there is only 12 km. During the current bombings, 122 locations in Gaza have already been destroyed.

Were hospitals bombed?

Hospitals, schools, apartments. Everything is bombarded. At the minute we talk under the ruins, there are about 2,000 bodies killed, about 5,000 wounded. 1 of the movies on the net shows how the ambulance driver can't handle it emotionally...

In Poland, it is frequently said that Palestinians would most gladly commit genocide on Israelis, which is to justify Tel Aviv's actions. So let us be clear: what is the position of the Palestinian authorities towards Israel? What is the desirable model of relations between the 2 countries?

– We've been under Israeli business for 75 years. Did Israel respect any global resolutions? Yet, erstwhile he joined the UN, he assured respect for the establishment of the Palestinian State and respect for all obligations. We have long recognized Israel's right to exist. But does it work the another way around? president Abbas, as before president Arafat, has repeatedly declared that we are ready to carry out all the agreements we have signed. But to this day Israel has no respect for anything, which means that we must inactive give the planet "proofs" that we have the right to exist.

It is besides attempted to say that the Palestinian people should bear collective work for Hamas' activities. Can we even talk about any control of the Palestinian government over this organization?

– This is not the time to ask. Why is it all over this right now? We should ask: has the Palestinian people been under business for 75 years? Why does Israel not respect Palestine’s rights? Why does the world, headed by the United States, let Israel to do all this?

Do you feel any support from another countries, specified as the members of the UN safety Council, which speaks of supporting the creation of a Palestinian state?

– We feel it even here in Poland. I received hundreds of letters and calls from Poles with words of support and solidarity with our people. any were besides here at our facility to show it. We are supported by countries from Africa, Asia or even Europe, but can they all influence our situation? Unfortunately, the United States blocks all decision like this.

An American political scientist, John Mearsheimer, wrote about the strength of the Israeli lobby.

– Just perceive to what the next US presidents say, who say the same thing as the Israeli authorities. Listening to Joe Biden's speech, I had the impression that I heard the authorities from Tel Aviv. I appeal to the Americans to look at the Palestinians differently from Israel. We know that we have support among another countries and communities, but we request a concrete 1 to halt the Palestinian genocide.

Are there any organizations among the Israelis themselves from which you Palestinians feel support?

Of course. As I mentioned earlier, the terrorist who shot at Gen. Rabin shot at all those forces in Israel that sought a common way out of this conflict. Netanjahu destroys all forces who would like an agreement. After all, the Israelis have just protested on the streets against his "reform" of the judiciary.

Is it actual that human rights organizations are gathering evidence of war crimes against Palestinians?

– Not for the first time, but without a truly active function for the global community, no 1 will be held accountable. The gas was cut off: water, electricity, or medicine, and the guilty commanders of the Israeli army stay impunity.

Would Palestine not anticipate a more unambiguous consequence from the Egyptian authorities?

– The situation is open, there may be different scenarios. The reaction of societies must be taken into account, not only in arabian countries, but besides in Europe and the United States. quite a few people are demonstrating against U.S. politics, even in American legislature itself. Will Washington inactive stand on the another side of the world? This truly is the minute for peace to prevail for the Palestinian people after 75 years.

Minister of abroad Affairs of the Republic of Poland, Zbigniew Rau, opposed the intersection of aid to Palestine.

– I have heard this message and, of course, I hope that the assistance from the European Union will continue. due to the fact that for whose benefit would she be interrupted? For Israel?

Could Poles aid the people of Gaza?

– We request to talk to the Polish government about how specified aid could look. Through you, I would like to thank the Polish nation, all those who called us, with this question: “How can we help?” Today, it is crucial to press all possible way that this war simply ends. To end the raids so that the Palestinians can live in peace as all nations in the world. Palestinian families surviving in Poland besides ask for prayer.

Tomasz Jankowski and Mateusz Piskorski spoke

Mahmoud Khalifa – Ambassador of the State of Palestine to Poland, dean of the diplomatic corps of arabian states in Poland. Journalist, graduated in Poland. He was Palestinian Information Minister.

Think Poland, No. 43-44 (22-29.10.2023)