Israeli genocide on Palestinians utilizing AI technology

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With Jarosław Pietrzak, we are talking about the Israeli Holocaust of Palestinians, the usage of artificial intelligence for the industrial killing of civilians and the turning of eyes by the "civilised" world.

Jarosław Pietrzak

Cultural scholar, essayist, journalist, writer. Author of the book "Sads of the Tropical: Contemporary Latin American Cinema as a Political Cinema" (2016) and of the fresh "Nirvaan" (2021); author of essays in respective collective books devoted to cinema and politics (in combination or separately), and most late an essay introducing Pier Paolo Pasolini's Polish edition of the Corsarian Interviews (2023). A longtime associate of the Polish edition of “Le Monde Diplomatique” and the Strajk.eu portal, he besides published in many another articles. He blogs at jaroslawspierzak.com.

(Interview is simply a edited and completed version of the podcast Are you aware? p. Palestine and Israel. Artificial intelligence genocide, which was published on 23 January 2024.)

Rafał Górski: What does it mean that Israel is conducting present the first truly industrial, technological, artificial intelligence (AI) tools, the demolition of the 21st century?’

Jarosław Pietrzak: In the 21st century, war is nothing fresh to us. In the last 4th of the century, there have been American invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and Americans-supported wars in Yemen and North Pakistan. There is simply a tragic situation in Sudan, but something like Gaza has not been happening for decades.

We're talking about more than a 100 twelve people killed a day.

Al Jazeera tv station regular reports how many people have died in the last twenty-four hours. These are deaths verified by the Ministry of wellness in Gaza. These numbers don't include people who have disappeared somewhere under debris whose bodies have not been identified.

In fact, we're talking about over 200 deaths a day, which is about 10 per hour. This is the average we have been dealing with in Gaza for over 3 months [*]. This is the rate of killing we have not faced in any of the last wars. It cannot be compared to the Ukrainian War. Even the American wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not marked by specified fast and mass killing.

I take it we've never dealt with the usage of artificial intelligence to kill on this scale before?

This is industrial killing not only due to the fact that it takes place at specified a rate and with specified intensity. In the first six weeks of this war, Israel dropped as many bombs as America has dropped during the biggest bombings of the year in Afghanistan – a much larger country. As far as I remember, Gaza covers an area of [360 square km - ed.] close to 2 thirds of the Warsaw area.

I think after 5 weeks of this offensive, there was a first comparison that the power of dropped bombs is equivalent to 1 atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

And the pace didn't slow down. I think present we can talk about the power of 3 atomic bombs.

The results of the investigation into the usage of artificial intelligence in this war were first published, conducted in English, by an excellent Israeli average ,,+972 Magazine’. Yuval Abraham is the author of a study that shows that Israel is able to bomb at specified a rate and with specified intensity, due to the fact that targets make artificial intelligence tools, engaged by Israeli armed forces. These are tools that analyse the full territory of Gaza for places where people live in any way connected to Hamas. Israel has tremendous cognition in this regard. Everything is under intense control and supervision of various tools.

For example, Israelis can bomb a residential block with respective families. As a reason, it is adequate that there is besides individual associated with Hamas.

And Hamas is simply a government of the Gaza Strip. According to ,,+972 Magazine’ have changed the guidelines that the Israeli armed forces had in force in erstwhile attacks on Gaza. This time they are to multiply targets. Artificial intelligence is multiplying these targets.

Civil casualties are not only tolerated, but are besides utilized as an indirect means of force on Hamas. If there are many civilian casualties in attacking the targets of any Hamas, this will put social force on him. And it caused social aversion to Hamas, which is highly cynical, and it's besides ineffective, due to the fact that that's not how it works in the conditions of national liberation.

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Are these Israeli journalists?

Yes, but this is at the same time an highly critical average for the State of Israel. In peculiar to the business regime, to the apartheid government applicable to Palestinians.

Does Netanjah tolerate them?

Yeah. I watched an interview with Gideon Levy, an outstanding Israeli writer who is simply a associate of the editorial board of ‘Haaretz’, the most prestigious liberal Israeli print diary in the country and besides published in English online for readers in the West. Levy said that, in fact, until present in Israel, the Netanyahu government does not force the media to say something or not say something.

Most media members joined Netanjah's propaganda alternatively willingly.

Of course, the Israeli government has censorship tools. There are officials in the Ministry of safety in the Israeli army who may issue a ban on talking about something, specified as journalists. And then most of them apply to it. In fact, most media themselves stick to the government line, so forcing anything on these two, 3 titles that do not hold on is completely unnecessary.

Why is Israel’s unprecedented force so unpunished?

This is simply a question to which there are respective levels of answers. 1 of them is the historical level, which means that in turn we organize facts and their causal relationships. And in this sense Israel gained its position of impunity erstwhile the United States spotted him at their favourite post in the mediate East. 1 you can trust on most.

Israel is not the only ally of the United States in the mediate East, due to the fact that we inactive have Saudi Arabia or the United arabian Emirates, but it is simply a country that has besides created its image of liberal democracy.

This has not always been the case, since inactive in the first years after the uprising of Israel the United States The United States had an ambivalent attitude towards Israeli politics. Eisenhower was repeatedly critical of the actions of the Israeli authorities and was assertive, for example able to endanger to cut off aid to force even deescalation of relations with arabian neighbors. These are times that are hard to imagine today. Also, Israel's cold-war position was not established from the beginning, for example, the russian Union was 1 of those states that advocated the establishment of the State of Israel. It wasn't until 1967, erstwhile Israel won the war in a week with a fewer of its arabian neighbors, he made specified an impression on the Americans that they even forgot that he besides shot up their own USS Liberty warship and forgave him.

Then they realized that it was an ally in the mediate East, on which 1 could rely, which in a week is able to defeat Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and decided from that minute on to make Israel their top friend in the mediate East.

This was besides supported by the fact that by then, in the 1960s, most arabian states were inclined more towards relationship with the russian Union. Supporting Israel guaranteed the United States a powerful place from which they could plan their power in a region where Iraq, Syria and Egypt had more sympathy for the russian Union. And from that minute on, the process of expanding what we call present began in the United States. IsraeliThe lobby. Until recently, the fear was to say specified words out loud due to the fact that it threatened to claim anti-Semitism. I have not lived in Poland for a long time, so I do not know what this situation is, but I think everyone already knows that there is an Israeli lobby in the United States, where there are specified organizations as AIPAC (American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee – ed.), and there are besides powerful businessmen who finance candidacy in the legislature elections to politicians from both sides, the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party.

I urge the book by prof. John Mearsheimer “Israeli lobby in the USA” to readers who would like to improve their cognition of the subject. You've presented a background that I think sometimes penetrates mainstream media, although rarely. Is there another hypothesis as to why Israel commits genocide with impunity?

This is simply a kind of solidarity between colonists. Countries that were colonial regimes that conquered another territories, especially their political and economical elites, see the coherence of their interests. Let's say that the French present must prosecute their colonial habits in a more veiled way: through currency control in West Africa, through agreements that enable them to install their troops in different parts of Africa. There is besides an component of the solidarity of colonial regimes with another colonial regime. This colonial government does the same thing they did 50 or a 100 years ago, but in an uncompromising, unvoluted way. There is besides the function Israel plays in the long-standing structural crisis of capitalism. This has been happening at least since the five-year second intifade, which officially ended in 2005. At that time Israel had yet given up the function that the Palestinians had in its structure in the 1980s: a cheaper workforce. They were the ones who supplied this inexpensive labour to the worst jobs that the Israelis of European or North American origin did not want to do. This strategy ended erstwhile Israel could import quite a few inexpensive labour from the erstwhile russian Union since the 1990s.

In Israel, 1 large grandmother, assigned to a synagogue in St. Petersburg, is adequate to become a citizen.

Many people from that area began to come to Israel and they became this alternate origin of inexpensive labor.

When the second intifada ended, changes took place, and Palestinians alternatively of sources of inexpensive labour became a reserve of the surplus population on which the technology of dominance, control, supervision of various kinds is tested.

It is Israel that pioneers in various technologies of population scanning, identifying people at ,checkpoints’, through which Palestinians gotta go through all day to, for example, get to work from their village to make any money. Going to a close city, for example, they pass through 2 checkpoints and throughout the strategy are filtered, profiled, scanned by the technology of supervision of a deprived population. specified action forces rebellion. As a result, fresh weapons technologies are being tested. By the end of 2024, Israel would most likely be selling tools of artificial intelligence at any arms trade fairs that it generated targets to fire in Gaza’s bombings. He'll sale them to another regimes.

Do colonists test their technology on Palestinians, like the Chinese on Uyghurs or average Chinese residents?

Yes, and possibly Israel is simply a bigger player than the Chinese, due to the fact that this is truly the heart of Israeli economy's export, and it's been for a long time: weapons, safety and surveillance technologies, specified a technological complex, the latest drones. Drones were invented in the United States during planet War II as a consequence to nipponese kamikazes. This is the drone mill where Norma Jean Baker worked before she became an actor and became Marilyn Monroe. After planet War II, however, the Americans abandoned the task completely, later dug it up by the Israelis and sold it back to the Americans. And thus the United States has redeemed the concept of drones, which are now a serious problem in the global law system.

The drones completely dismantle the borders between the territory at war and the territory at peace.

All technologies by which Israel accumulates cognition of the occupied population are sold as means of exercising power over populations brought to power. They are being sold both to newer, little democratic regimes and to the United States and European countries. Training on how to pacify protests is provided to US police, British police, possibly many another police in Europe by Israeli armed forces.

Where is this going?

We have been surviving in a strategy that has been in a crisis for many years, with the financial crisis in 2008. Then the Lehman Brothers bank collapsed. This crisis has never been solved, but it's been printed with money. And the problems with the rate of return on capital, with social inequality, all these problems are cumulative all the time. The elites that held power before the 2008 crisis mostly stay in power.

We mostly talk about Western political systems all the time that we are inactive democracies. We are ruled by neoliberals or politicians of any another political denomination, but the neoliberal paradigm has not changed.

What has changed are the ways of action: in order to keep the power of the neoliberals they are reaching for increasingly drastic measures, anti-democratic ones, i.e. learning the technology of pacifying democracy, get Pegasus from Israel.

We have a case of a world-famous writer who has been imprisoned in Britain for respective years, Julian Assange. And no 1 sees the seriousness of the situation, no 1 intervenes, sometimes individual makes a speech in the European Parliament. We do not realize that we are most likely no longer surviving in democracy, and that political elites are arming themselves with instruments of power bare with violence.

In 1 of my texts in Political Criticism, I suggested a informing inspired by Peter Frose's book, "Four Futures". Visions of the planet After Capitalism’. Frose wrote in it 4 possible scenarios of the future that systems can replace capitalism erstwhile it ends. For example, erstwhile we do not come out of this economical crisis, in which we are now, which is manifested not only by economical problems, but by the fact that the strategy reaches its natural limits of expansion. There is no longer so much cheaper nature to draw from, due to the fact that we have almost pulled everything out of it.

The worst of these 4 scenarios that Frose draws is the script of "exterminism". It would be a strategy in which all the cumulative crises of capitalism – increasingly little and little profit to divide, expanding inequality, little and little inexpensive nature, migration for climate reasons, constantly exploding armed conflicts – will be regulated simply by the extermination of subsequent populations. Their liquidation will be a helpful tool to regulate, keep power over another populations.

Do we see the powerlessness of the world's public, or do we see the deliberate closure of our eyes on what is happening in Gaza? Who's next?

Of course, we don't know who's next, but a fewer candidates have already been selected. The Americans with the British are already bombing Yemen, aren't they? 1 of the poorest countries in the planet finished with a long-term war, hunger is now being bombed again.

In my opinion, next will be people from Africa. erstwhile the temperature rises on Earth, they will massively flee towards Europe.

People fleeing Africa are most likely on the list for next victims. I am convinced that if we let Israel (not only Netanyahu, due to the fact that this is the problem of the full political strategy of Israel) to get distant with this, we will open an era of specified disasters, which will follow 1 by one. Netanjahu is clearly trying to do something to keep this war alive even by means of its escalation into neighboring states. In the first week of Netanjahu said he intended to wage this war throughout the year 2024. He said it openly.

I do not know what else he will be able to bomb in Gaza in December, for example, if 70% of the buildings are either destroyed or damaged.

Of course, he's got either Lebanon, Syria, or Iran, all his large dreams for a long time. Then there could be Iran, for example.

You mentioned that at the arms fair, technologies will be sold for killing tested in the Gaza Strip. That's what people don't talk about. Explain, please.

There are trade fairs in London, for example. Israel always sells on them its latest inventions tested on Palestinians. This is the marketing line of Israeli producers that these are things proven in combat against civilians. Of course, I do not know for certain that at the nearest fair in London they will already offer this technology. I guess so far, I'm speculating on what happened before.

Does Israel have the right to be or does Israel have the right to defend itself?

The right to be is the propaganda grip of Israel. There is no specified thing as the right of the state to be in global law. In global law there is the right of nations to self-determination, and this is completely different.

The right of nations to self-determination is usually exercised by their own national state, although it can besides be exercised by national states in which they have a subjective status. For a very long time there were no separate Czech Republic and Slovakia, both nations exercised their right to self-determination through a common national state with the capital in Prague. But this country had no right to exist, and erstwhile both nations changed their minds and decided that they would self-determine separately, Czechoslovakia ceased to be overnight. And now there is simply a separate Czech Republic and a separate Slovak State.

Israel uses the practice of repeating certain phrases and counting frequently that they will be quoted and repeated so frequently later by the media in allied countries in the West that we will all go over this to the agenda, but something like the right of the state to be does not exist. The nations have the right to self-determination and in the form that Israel presently exists, or as an apartheid government that gives no subjectivity to the Palestinians, at this point is an obstacle to the self-determination of the Palestinians.

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Does Israel have the right to defend itself?

The right to defence is simply a circumstantial legal word in global law. The right of defence shall apply only to independent states. I mean, Israel has the right to defend itself against Egypt, has the right to defend itself against Syria, against Saudi Arabia, if anything threatens it from these parties. In this sense, he has the right to defend himself in these directions, but he has no right to defend himself against the people who live under his occupation. Even so, under illegal occupation, which has been going on for 57 years. This business is illegal due to the fact that legal business can only be temporary, all of which is regulated by global law, the 4th Geneva Convention and the Additional Protocols.

And no business that lasts 57 years can claim to be legitimate.

If this business is illegal, the Palestinians have the right to defy it. With all the means available to them, so is global law and Israel does not have the right to defend itself.

On 29 December 2023, she formally charged Israel with acts violating the conventions on genocide with the global Court of Justice in the Hague of South Africa. delight comment.

It was a large event: the first hearings were held on 11 and 12 January 2024 in The Hague. At the same time, very symbolic. The "symbolic" is most likely not the right word, but I can't think of anything better. Here, South Africa reaches for the memory of Mandela, who said, possibly even repeatedly, "our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." The South Africans themselves have overthrown their apartheid government and have always lived in the belief that Palestinians besides live in the apartheid government and that they owe them. Even so literally, due to the fact that the African National legislature received material support from Fatahu, the Palestine Liberation Organization. South Africa filed a very awesome suit and their presentation on January 11 was very impressive.

What do you mean, this suit is impressive?

It's very detailed. This preliminary paper has eighty-four pages, and this is not the end. Following preliminary proceedings, following a answer from the Court to the South African request for interim measures to defend Palestinians from further casualties, The Court will give the South African side a certain amount of time, for example six or 8 months, to supply the remainder of the evidence.

On the first day of the proceedings, South African lawyers presented everything in a very contextual way. They showed everything that happened on October 7, 2023, as the consequences of 75 years of Israeli force against the Palestinians, that is, from the very beginning and even before the beginning, due to the fact that the expulsion of the Palestinians began even before the authoritative uprising of the State of Israel. They referred to sources that the Israeli side would not be able to overthrow, global institutions, as agencies of the United Nations. They devoted 9 pages of this paper to a very crucial part from the point of view of the Convention on Genocide, due to the fact that genocide there is defined as a crime that deliberately and deliberately seeks to destruct all or part of any ethnic, racial, spiritual population. And that was Israel's intention.

Intention is always the hardest to prove, due to the fact that it is uncommon to admit that his intention is, for example, to execution a population.

But this South African suit contains 9 pages of quotes from the president's statements, not only from Netanjah's statements, but besides from president Herzog, the ministers of the Netanjah government, generals who cannot otherwise be interpreted as expressing intentions of genocide. In addition, the South African side was very calm and factual in its presentation in The Hague. She did not want to present, for example, video material, movie documentation from Israeli crimes in Gaza, considering that specified a horror theatre is unnecessary in an institution of global law. It was very convincing, but it is not over due to the fact that South African lawyers are now working on the same lawsuits against the United States and the United Kingdom to support this genocide.

What is Gaza’s immediate future?

Let's face it, there's no Gaza anymore, she's practically no longer a city. A fewer more weeks, and there's nothing going to happen. No building, so if Netanjahu keeps his word that he will proceed this war for 12 months, there will be nothing left.

And the Palestinians who will not be murdered will yet be pushed out. This is the goal Israel unofficially pursues.

Unofficially, but we know that he is pursuing due to the fact that there is simply a paper that leaked on 13 October 2023 that the intent of this operation is to push Palestinians from Gaza to Egypt. Israel simply wants to build a fresh city in Gaza. specified reports had already existed and, «Financial Times’’ confirmed that Israel had tried to equip European diplomacy to negociate with Egypt, but Egypt is afraid to pay for it. He fears that helping Netanjah will lead to cultural cleansing in Gaza, that he will have a fresh revolution in Tahrir Square. So Egypt does not want to do this, but there was already information that Netanyahu was trying to negociate the admission of Palestinians in another countries, even in Congo. This was a project, so if the United States, the only country that can halt Netanyahu (because it mainly sends him money and weapons), will not halt him, then most likely there will be nothing left from Gaza this year and the Palestinians will be elsewhere.

What would you anticipate from the Polish public, or the decision-makers on this matter?

I would anticipate a decent country (and I would like Poland to be a decent country) to break all arms cooperation with Israel. This was, for example, the request made already in the first days of the war by the National Trade Union Agreements. Recently, organization Politicians Together asked the Polish Ministry of abroad Affairs whether Poland exports arms to Israel? Which is simply a good question, and I don't think we should send arms to Israel that are utilized in this way and against civilians. However, we most likely don't send these weapons at all, but we buy them from Israel, due to the fact that Israel is the large maker of weapons, not Poland. So what we do is we sponsor the Israeli arms industry. And we should halt this, and I truly think that we should break diplomatic relations with Israel.

Thank you for talking to me.

[*] The interview was held in January 2024. We were more than 3 months distant from the outbreak of the present "war" in Gaza. Today, a year later, it wouldn't even be easy to count. For months now, the statistic of the Ministry of wellness in Gaza have been increasing slow and it is known that they do not keep up with the real number of victims. The Ministry itself is already decimated, and so are those who counted; its infrastructure, and thus the computer network, are gradually destroyed. The numbers given by the Ministry of wellness are already approaching 50,000 people, but only include those whose bodies have been found, identified and drawn into this authoritative register, and have besides died in the direct effect of armed action, that is, a bullet or bomb explosion. This does not include people dying from illness, cold, deficiency of medical care and famine resulting from the humanitarian disaster brought to Gaza by Israel. It besides does not include all those whose bodies have not yet been recovered from the rubble, or have been torn apart into unrecognizable pieces, or even evaporated (today we already know quite a few reports indicating Israel's highly probable usage of specified thermobaric bombs—used by Israel precisely to make any people perish without material remains and not included in the statistic of the victims). Already in July 2024, the medical diary "Lancet" estimated the actual number of victims to be more than 180 000. Today, scientists have estimated more than 300,000 people. If they were true, respective 100 deaths per day (more than six hundred).

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