"International Report". Witold Juras and Zbigniew Parafianovich “long and very productive” about Trump's conversation with Putin

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In the podcast there is simply a dispute between the leaders on the explanation of the latest events. The dividing line is in a sense conventional – Zbigniew Parafianowicz remains alternatively a pessimist and does not believe that the possible end of the war will be permanent. On the another hand, Witold Juras argues that there are no major differences between the policy of the fresh US administration and president Joe Biden's approach. In his opinion, the safety of Ukraine and the sustainability of peace depend not on the course of borders, but on whether a military mission with real force will be created in Ukraine.

Zbigniew Parafianovich emphasizes that Trump and Hegseth, stating that Ukraine will not regain all territories or enter NATO, already made concessions to the government in Moscow at the start. Witold Juras, however, points out that the reactions in Poland border on hysteria, which is an exaggeration. In his opinion, a key issue is overlooked in the public debate – the real threat to Poland comes not from Ukraine, but from Belarus.

The Russians, if they were to attack Poland, would strike from Belarus alternatively than Ukraine – for example, due to the fact that Ukraine would inactive gotta defeat, while in Belarus Russian troops are already stationed, just 250 km from Warsaw.

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The podcast leader wonders whether Poland should send troops to Ukraine. Witold Juras clearly states that yes, due to the fact that a country in whose interest it is to establish a military mission in Ukraine cannot declare at the same time that it will not participate. However, it adds that it is crucial that Polish troops are stationed in the back of British, French and another Western states. This arrangement would discourage Russia from starting another war, giving it a clear signal that in the event of aggression it will gotta face not only Ukraine, but besides Western powers, and Poland will not be the first mark of the attack.

A monument that cannot be built for years

In the further part of the podcast, Juras and Paraphanovich return to the issue of the monument of Polish victims of German Nazism, which cannot be established in Berlin for years. They note Esther Flieger's text in Rzeczpospolita, which points out that if the monument was to be accompanied by a alleged monument, The Polish-German home – a German institution promoting the German imagination of past – would be completely diluted.

The podcast besides comments on the reports of Szymon Jadczak from “Virtual Poland” and Maciej Miłosz from “Rzeczpospolita” concerning the head of the Pilecki Institute, Krzysztof Ruchniewicz. It follows that there have been serious financial irregularities in the institutions managed by him.

What do Trump's declarations mean?

Further to the podcast are besides discussed ‘Washington Post’ information about Israel's planned hit on Iran's atomic installations. Zbigniew Parafianowicz notes that reports that Donald Trump is trying to halt the improvement of Iran's atomic programme through diplomatic channels may indicate that his extremist statements about the displacement of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip are only a PR play aimed at providing the Prime Minister of Netanjah with propaganda success, which will not necessarily be supported by real actions.

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Witold Jurasz notes that similarly, Trump's apparent concessions to Putin can be treated as a sign – friendly declarations may not translate into real concessions. In his opinion, in relations between Russia and the United States, given the US sanctions imposed on Moscow, it is Russia that is “on the music”.

Should Poland have atomic weapons?

At the end of the podcast, the leaders consider whether Poland should aim not only to deploy American atomic weapons in its territory, but besides to build its own atomic potential. Witold Juras emphasizes that the creation of a secret atomic program is completely unrealistic, but Poland could strive to accomplish the position of a "protocol state", that is, a country with the technology to rapidly get atomic weapons. In his opinion, if Poland wants to aspire to specified a position in the future, it should choose atomic reactors not necessarily American production.

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