Officially, PiS politicians are very outraged, as long as – here an crucial reservation – even comment on the alleged Giertych tapes. For example, Janusz Kowalski warms up the fight in his communities.
"It's suitable for a committee of inquiry. In my opinion, we are dealing with a patostate of Tuska, in which the hater Roman Gierty acts as a puller of political bills in an illegally seized prosecutor's office" - wrote Jarosław Kaczyński's MP for the Xth party.
"Sakiewicz and Karnowski's "band affair"
However, these virtual cries do not carry a powerful echo. Not as the erstwhile "band scandal" had before more than a decade ago, which contributed to the end of the PO-PSL government and the arrival of the PiS to full power. There was nothing on those tapes that would let the United Right (the opponents mockedly shortened its name to "jep") to plant politicians of a competitive camp, and it had 8 long years.
The same is actual of recordings of Roman Giertych's private conversations, stolen from his communicators most likely utilizing Pegasus cyber weapons – at least for now.
What about the "tape phase" that Sakevich and Karnowski entities are excited about, really, PiS politicians think? We asked them for honest opinions, not narratives, and in return we guaranteed them anonymity. That's what they told us.
Giertych tapes – PiS politicians comments
The best comment is possibly that any of them do not know how to comment on the content of PiS-dependent editorials because... they did not have the time or the desire to get acquainted with them.
– I don't know what it is, I'm on vacation," he says on the PiS MP's subject erstwhile we call him and ask him about the matter. We are asking if, despite his leave, he would have an orientation on the subject if PiS actually considered Gierty's tapes a scandal, or at least a useful prop for attacking a power camp. Of course I do. If it were something strong, I would know – the parliamentarian admits.
He adds that he did not perceive to any tapes. – A fellow writer wrote to me that they are bad – there is not even disappointment in his voice. We besides hear that the entries about the "tape phase" have very mediocre coverage on social media, so the subject clearly did not catch.
PiS messenger: I've had adequate of 8 stars!
His clubmate didn't get to know the recordings either, but she's planning on doing it. She's had another issues over the last fewer days. But she heard something. It's come to my attention that Gierty and Tusk think we're food and shit. I've had adequate of 8 whistles! – does not hide the anger of the PiS MP.
A akin sentiment appears in another associate of the party. “The cynicism of those who aspired to power at the time and now hold it strikes me most,” says Jarosław Kaczyński, MP of the party. In her opinion, during the discussion on electoral districts, of which Gierty would not have a chance in the elections, he and Tusk insulted Poles from Radom and east Wielkopolska. – This is discrediting – he declares.
The question is, is it certain that Tusk's mouth said the word "zj*by" alternatively than "zj*py" – a popular, mocking abbreviation meaning politicians United Right – answers the question: - And politicians are not Poles?! Whether it was the members of the Law and Justice organization or the citizens, specified words should not fall even in private conversation. This is an incredible scandal – he estimates.
Is it worse than that erstwhile Jarosław Kaczyński publically named people who do not support his party, a worse kind of Poles? – Scandal is as the Poles heard. The president did not usage vulgarism, explains the politician PiS.
PiS MP: No sense, nothing fresh there
Another prominent associate of Law and Justice belongs to the camp that recognizes Gierty's tapes as a cap. He doesn't think the Republic and Poland are doing any good work for the Law and Justice.
– It doesn't make sense, there's nothing fresh there! I wouldn't play it if I were them,” says an experienced parliamentarian.
He interviewed the tapes and considered it a waste of time.
– At least 80 percent of things were spoken publically either in the Sejm, either in the media or on YouTube," adds PiS politician. He thinks that "Gierty treats people from Radom" as the strongest, which he does not like.
However, he sees nothing to go to the prosecutor's office, so he wonders about the activities of Sakiewicz and Karnowski. These tapes are not sensational. I don't know why they did it," he says.
However, the Republic besides has strong fans among PiS politicians. erstwhile we ask 1 of them if he feels like an idiot erstwhile Sakiewicz's experts "disclose" a fragment of Gierty's public conversation with net users, he definitely denies it. I like, appreciate and respect tv Republic. I don't feel cheated – he answers.
Thus, the predictions of Prof. Adam Szynol, a mediologist from the University of Wrocław, with whom he talks a small earlier, are fulfilled. – I would not anticipate a crucial part of the Republic's audience to verify the content. And even if they find out in any way that organization triggers played them a YouTube fragment of Roman Giertych, I do not fishy that this will trigger mass reflection," says Prof. Szynol.
As the lecturer points out, real journalists would have done their investigative work before posting material online. You gotta answer a fewer questions. What is this? Where did we get this? Who wanted to see the light of day, and why now?
– The main question they pose in the media of Sakiewicz and Karnowski is, "Can it harm Tusk or the current power?" – says Prof. Szynol. In his opinion, the hopes of those who anticipate stolen recordings to origin the Coalition to fall on October 15. "The government will not overturn it, but will give fuel to these media companies. specified content is driven by the auditorium," concludes Prof. Adam Szynol.
Who was spying on Giertych and who gave the recordings to the PiS-dependent media?
However, let us return to the politicians of the Law and Justice. Yes, there are uncritical audiences of friendly media who don't care where the stolen recordings came from, but there are those who ask themselves questions indicated by the medical examiner. Of course, they can only speculate. What are the PiS Members' hypotheses about Giertych's tapes?
First of all, they believe that the "affect" is not inspired by the PiS. They stress that the time of the eavesdropping – after the presidential election, and 2.5 years before the parliamentary election – does not bring any benefit to the Law and Justice. Tapes, even if they measure their contents as capisson, could aid Charles Nawrock in May, during the campaign. They could besides aid their parties if they came out in the fall of 2027 erstwhile the next elections to the Sejm and the legislature were scheduled to take place. But now?
– This could be a service game. Someone's doing this kind of thing to motivate power to do something, or else something else will come out, this time strong. specified a loud informing – we hear.
Our callers point to the service, but they think it's more likely that the tapes came out of the civilian Coalition. This is indicated by the time the recordings went out – they would not harm Trzaskowski anymore, but besides do not diminish the chances of KO in the next elections, due to the fact that "in 3 months no 1 will remember them".
As our PiS speakers emphasize, there are no shortages in the Platform of those who would like to send Tusk and Giertych to retire, and releasing specified materials is simply a kind of ankle kick. The government itself will not overthrow, but weaken the position of Prime Minister. If he is confronted with another problems, in the 2027 election Tusk no longer should be the unquestioned leader of the Platform.
– I'm betting on a faction fight inside the Platform. There are those who want to sweep Tusk and let the young in – says the PiS MP. In his opinion, the Confederation will benefit most from the actions of the Republic and Poland, in addition to the rebels in the PO: both Sławomir Mentzen and Grzegorz Braun.
Whether Giertych's tapes won't hit the PiS with a ricochet – if it turns out that the theft of the recordings is caused by written services – politicians from Jarosław Kaczyński's organization are not afraid. any point out that they personally did not eavesdrop on the opposition (and today’s power), so they sleep peacefully. Others don't care who broke into Gierty's phone, but what they took out of it.
– There's no self-respecting service that doesn't have a Pegasus. In our time politicians were only overheard erstwhile there was a reason. If I am afraid of something, it is that now the power of Tusk is listening to us for no reason – concludes the MP of PiS.
