In the latest episode of “Kraków-Warsaw: a common cause!” Witold Bereś and Marcin Celiński began the conversation with a gag about the passports of Minister Romanowski, who – as they were ironic – was deprived of papers and remained only a "Polsat passport". This subject rapidly evolved into a more serious discussion about the state of Polish democracy and how political decisions affect public life.
Much space was devoted to events around the Polish–Netherlands match. Bereś pointed out that the kibboli incidents are not simply a manifestation of stadium hooliganism, but are increasingly becoming a form of political demonstration. Celiński compared the kibibol groups to motorcycle gangs in the United States, pointing out that in Poland many of them act as organized criminal groups that gain approval of part of the political scene. He stressed that the problem had not only a sporting but besides a criminal dimension, and that the state had been incapable to respond effectively for years. It was besides mentioned about precedents from the UK, where in the 1980s the influence of utmost right-wing cheering militias was reduced by the cooperation of the football federation and the Margaret Thatcher government.
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The conversation then moved to the ground of national policy. Berez and Celinski commented on the statements of politicians of the far right, who are increasingly attacking Jarosław Kaczyński. They pointed out that in the PiS camp there is simply a increasing anticipation of a generation change and that many activists are already calculating how to divide the “down” after the current leader. In their view, the future of the right is simply a rivalry between groups of close Confederates and remnants of conventional PiS, which could lead to a deep reconfiguration of the political scene.
Another crucial subject was the case of Zbigniew Ziobra. Publicists commented on his presence in Budapest and speculations about possible asylum applications. They considered the sources of his assets, which increased importantly over the decade, and how his emigration affects the position in Polish politics. The conversation featured historical analogues to political emigrations from the 19th and 20th centuries, which, as they stressed, never had real origin in Poland.
The full programme was maintained in an ironic-publicist tone, but at the same time pointed to serious problems: expanding acceptance of force in public space, the crisis of leadership in the Law and Justice and the unclear future of politicians who effort to search refuge outside the country. Berez and Celiński agreed that it would be these processes that will find the form of the Polish political scene in the coming years.
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