‘FT’ reveals the scenes of Trump's argument with Zelenski. Screams, curses and demands to give Donbass

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This was expected to be a regular gathering of allies, and it turned into a test of the limits of diplomatic patience. As reported by “Financial Times”, Friday talks by US president Donald Trump with Volodymyr Zelenski in the White House, on October 17, 2025, were far from courteous. The Journal, citing respective people acquainted with the course of events, describes the “screaming exchange”, Trump's rejection of maps with the current front line and the vulgarity that would rain during talks. The stakes were not simply the form, but the direction of the American war policy in Ukraine and its consequences for European security.

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From maps to ultimatum. What according to ‘FT’ was happening in the Oval Office

According to the interviewers, “FT” Donald Trump was to push aside respective briefing material presenting the situation on the front and return to 1 thesis: Kiev should agree to surrender all Donbas to Vladimir Putin. What was presented on the Ukrainian side as an integrated argument based on combat data, in the relations of officials quoted by the “FT” hit a hard wall, the belief that Ukraine is losing anyway, so the agreement is inevitable. In this context, a informing was given to Trump, direct to Zelenski, that “If [Putin] wants, he will destruct you”. This sentence, although anonymously reported, sets the speech of the full meeting: little ally conversation, a more violent confrontation of prospects.

A call to Moscow the day before and an “echo Kremlin” in the White House

The context is important. The day before the meeting, Trump was on the telephone with Putin. According to the Financial Times, any of the Russian leader's arguments were to return almost word for word on Friday with Zelenski. It is this convergence, to which European officials quoted by the paper have caused confusion on the Ukrainian side and in the allies' capitals. Until late Trump publically emphasized the weaknesses of the Russian army; now, in the FT account, his thesis was closer to the Kremlin's calculation than to the earlier declarations of the White home host.

Tomahawks that won't come. And the proposal to “freeze” the front lines

Zelenski came to Washington with a concrete request: long-range missiles maneuvering Tomahawk. In Ukrainian assessment they could balance the advantage of the opponent and strengthen the negotiating position. According to France Télécom, however, Trump was to refuse. Parallelly, as Reuters reports, the White home featured the subject of “freezing” fighting on current lines and possible safety guarantees. In practice, specified an option would mean recognising the facts on the front without settling a territorial dispute. For Ukraine is at most a stop, for Moscow a tactical breath, for Europe a long pause with uncertain finale. After talks, Trump publically said the conflict could be ended on the line of the current front; Zelenski described this point as ‘important’ without making any promises on territorial concessions.

What the Kremlin proposed. ‘Replacement’ of Donbas to the confederate portions

According to “FT”, Trump-Putin’s telephone call brought a fresh proposal to Moscow. In short: Ukraine would return the areas under its control in Donbasa, and in return would receive tiny front areas in the Kherson and Zaporo region. The paper points out that this "postpony" to the Kremlin's earlier demands, but it is fundamentally about giving up a region that Russia has not full won since 2022. In this sense, the price would be politically lethal for Kiev and propaganda for Putin. Quoted by the ‘FT’ officials, this is simply a socially unacceptable and possible detonator of interior divisions.

“Red lines” Kiev and Mereżka's voice

Alexander Mereżko, president of the abroad Affairs Committee of the ultimate Council, says clearly in a conversation with the “FT”: giving Donbas without a fight has no public acceptance and would be a gift to the Russian strategy to teardrop the unity of Ukraine from the inside. This message is well arranged by the Ukrainian perspective. The dispute does not come down to a geographical puzzle, but to questions about sovereignty, safety and credibility of a state that has been resisting full-scale aggression for 3 years. The "territorial compromise" in this logic does not bring peace, but the hazard of another war — from a worse position.

A European consternation. little faith, more calculation

On the European side, according to the “FT” account, cold pragmatism was overwhelming. 3 officials acquainted with talks in the White home describe Trump's attitude as tough and confrontational, and Zelenski's temper after gathering as clearly pessimistic. Hope that the American administration will rapidly increase support for Kiev, they got a scratch. At the same time, no 1 smokes bridges: in the capitals of the EU, there is simply a increasing awareness that if Washington pushes the freezing of the front, Europe will gotta invest more in defence, energy and reconstruction in order not to legitimize aggression and not abandon Ukraine in a political vacuum.

What we know for certain and what remains in the shadows

It's worth keeping a reporter safe. It is credible and verifiable that the "Financial Times" described in item the stormy gathering and force on territorial concessions, and Reuters summarised these findings and added the subject of the discussion about front frost and safety guarantees. At the same time, the full image consists of anonymous accounts of officials — there are no authoritative transcripts, and the messages of the pages are sparing. In specified a nebula of details, any subsequent message by leaders can decision accents. The most crucial thing present is the political fact: after visiting the White House, no serious individual can pretend that a dispute about the definition of a "peace" in Ukraine can be resolved with 1 handshake.

Zelenski after talks: call for "strong action"

In a Sunday statement, the president of Ukraine called for "strong action" by the United States, Europe and the G7 and G20 countries. It's a brief message, without mention to the details of Friday's talks, but significant. If Washington is willing to frost the front, Kiev will push for real safety guarantees and strengthening air defense, due to the fact that only this allows you to last the pause without losing sovereignty. This diplomatic tact reminds us that sometimes the future of the conflict is decided not by spectacular declarations, but by cool numbers of risks and resources.

The fresh days have not brought a breakthrough, but have brought clarity: the lines of dispute run not only between Kiev and Moscow, but besides between the imagination of a fast “stopping” of war and the concept of peace, which is to be more permanent than the next electoral cycle. In this sense, the gathering in the White home was little about maps and more about the limits of political imagination. And it is these boundaries, not the lines on the map, that will find whether Europe will be safer in a fewer years or just get utilized to the next glimpse of uncertainty.

DF, thefad.pl / Sources: Financial Times, Reuters, The regular Beast (published October 19, 2025)

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