Marta Kurzyńska, Interia: Will there be something constructive about the presidential debates, or will there be a political push?
Michał Szczerba, MEP of the Civic Coalition: – Times are restless and the differences of candidates are significant. Those on the right do not realize the Polish ration of the state. They want to weaken the European Union, and we, like never before, request its unity and strength. Rafał Trzaskowski is ready for a serious debate on Poland and security.
Why doesn't your candidate want one-on-one debate with Charles Nawrock and Sławomir Mentzen?
– First round's no time for solo. There will be time for the debate of 2 if it comes to two. If the right wants to do the primary, let them debate. 1 most frequently thinks nothing, and the another is simply a master of escape from questions. 1 worth another. It's even worse erstwhile they talk.
But if you think it's the weak competitors, possibly it's worth the risk?
– There is no specified legal expression or practice.
But the candidates from the podium are coming forward to face Rafał Trzaskowski.
– It's just politics. Let them look into the eyes of girls and women. They want a fresh hell of a woman, prohibiting the right to decide on rape pregnancies.
The competitors say that Rafał Trzaskowski escapes like a debate in Konski.
– Trzaskowski will be in Konski on Friday. Everyone is invited and anyone can ask a question. What Jacek Kurski and organization TVP organized 5 years ago was not a debate, it was a setup. The questions prepared at Dudy's staff were to be asked by PiS councillors.
Or, as competitors say, is Rafał Trzaskowski afraid of debate due to the fact that he is constantly changing his views?
– He was always on the side of the women. He was always with the weakest. He supported seniors and seniors. He was, and he will be. It has character, competence and preparation. Rafał Trzaskowski is determined to guarantee Poland's safety and peace. Interestingly, his incompetent competitors run distant from cases that are the prerogative of the President. alternatively of protecting citizens' rights, strong diplomacy and the army, they want to set energy prices.
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Who would be the harder interviewer for Rafał Trzaskowski: Sławomir Mentzen or Karol Nawrocki?
– 1 of them honestly admitted that there is no presidential profile. The second 1 runs due to the fact that he won the casting at Kaczyński's. A ribless fish and a cancer fish. But well. They both have a immense deficiency of experience. Rafał Trzaskowski beats them to the head. I am reasoning about the Minister for European Affairs and Digitalism at work, but besides in the European Parliament. It manages a metropolis larger than many countries. Trzaskowski knows everyone in Europe and everyone knows him. It's gonna be a mature and causative presidency.
Rafał Trzaskowski's staff are ready for the possible entry of Sławomir Mentzen into the second round?
– We're doing our job. Mentzen reached the ceiling. He can only lose. People get their actual ideas. Mentzen's program is simply a country only for the rich and hell for women. I know it's hard, but we're gonna do everything we can to get it to the first round.
President Trzaskowski will be a partner for both the government and abroad in building defence potential, effective deterrence. He's the only 1 who guarantees peace.
It's beautiful risky. There has been specified a slogan erstwhile before "let's settle the elections in the first round" and we remember what happened.
– all run is different. 1 thing is certain – Rafał Trzaskowski has aces up his sleeve. People feel safe with him, cared for, know that in all situation they can number on his leadership.
But professionalism requires readiness for any scenario.
– Sure, Mentzen's entry into the second circular could have any effect on the movement on the right. They would appear from transfers from Nowogrodzka and president Andrzej Duda's Chancellery. The PiS are utmost opportunists. For 8 years, they confirmed that they were only curious in influence, money, and impunity.
It can besides give the wind into Confederate sails in parliamentary elections and change the full seismic hand.
– That's why we're doing everything we can to inform Mentzen. He represents an environment that in the European Parliament works regular with the German pro-Russian AfD. It is an utmost right that questions the western borders of Poland and wants a reset in relations with Russia. specified an alliance of Confederacy is simply a betrayal of Poland!
Sławomir Mentzen says he is under attack by Rafał Trzaskowski due to the fact that your candidate is afraid of his possible entry into the second round.
– As Mentzen is, everyone sees. He fell down, calling raping a female "an unpleasantness". He wants a country for the rich. little wealthy people want free studies. Take the families 800 plus, and the seniors 13th and 14th retirement. Plus paid wellness care. The more voters get to know him, the more they open their eyes and find out what the Confederacy is.
The polls don't show that.
– Last words will have consequences, including election.
So, you're hoping for a polling of the Confederate candidate?
Mentzen wants to make women hell, everybody knows that.
You're going to be world-viewing now to effort to weaken Sławomir Mentzen?
“For Rafał Trzaskowski, the most crucial question is the safety of Poland. president Trzaskowski will be a partner for both the government and abroad in building defence potential, effective deterrence. He's the only 1 who guarantees peace.
Last week he asked if people felt safe. He heard he wasn't. So possibly it's a risky road?
“The aim of Trzaskowski is to make our alliances stronger. NATO is simply a pillar. But it is money from the Union that gives the chance for Poland to arm itself to the teeth. Our candidate understands that.
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Rafał Trzaskowski is already seeking Polish security, gathering with the most crucial politicians in the world. She is simply a well-known and respected individual in the planet of European politics.
You were to step on the heels of erstwhile CBA heads Maciej Wąsik and Mariusz Kamiński in the European Parliament. How's it going?
– Very good. Their cases are over on the immunity committee. The European Parliament will decide on the future of the immunity of Kamiński and Wąsik at 1 of the forthcoming plenary sessions. The day of justice is nearing large steps.
Do we know precisely erstwhile the European Parliament will deal with the matter?
– It could be any minute. It's up to the rapporteur. The immunity committee gave the green light to the waiver of immunity. We've already successfully lifted the immunity from Adam Bielan. Time for the others. In line with Wąsik and Kamiński, the erstwhile head of the Chancellery of Morawiecki Prime Minister Michał Dworczyk and erstwhile president of Orlen Daniel Obabiek are waiting. We do not forget about Grzegorz Braun, he will be punished.
In the case of Maciej Wąsik and Mariusz Kamiński, the image of immunity concerns parliamentary credentials?
– These charges will likely be more in the coming months, but this motion for the prosecution to remove immunity concerns illegal participation in voting after both have lost their parliamentary mandate as a consequence of a final sentence.
Speaking of another charges, what do you mean?
– In the case of Mariusz Kamiński, we besides have the notification of the committee of enquiry for the visa scandal. Here too, the lawyer General will gotta apply for a photograph of the immunity idol.
You besides said Daniel Obatek is in line. Which case is he expected to have on?
– This concerns hiring a detective to illegally track opposition MPs. The prosecution is preparing the motion. I want it ready soon. But it is besides about the determination of NIK on the undervalue of the sale of shares in the Gdańsk Refinery and the Lotus filling stations.
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Former Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki testified last week in the NIK on the Government strategical Reserve Agency. The president of the NIK says that – here the quote – “may be interesting”. Is that what you think?
– The name Mateusz Morawiecki appears in many scandals from the times of the Law and Justice. The most advanced is the NIK study on the Government strategical Reserve Agency. Paul Sz. I feel that the ground under Morawiecki's feet is on fire. I see black clouds over Morawiecki.
How black?
– The cases that are examined concern his oversight of the RARS. The PiS took a large harvest there. There are besides issues related to GetBack and his actions. They left the injured to themselves, and then the bank was sold. His function in KNF must besides be explained.
There is besides a question of the inefficiencies of European resources on the RARS?
- Yeah. due to the fact that the money for power generators for Ukraine was transferred by the European Commission. The RARS was expected to be a middleman in these purchases. It turned out that in the pre-election year, they utilized this acquisition as an chance to fill someone's pocket. The first thing Polish institutions must do is effort to enforce these funds from a RARS counterparty. This case is straight weighing down Morawiecki and his supervised RARS. erstwhile RARS president Michał Kuczmierowski was his most trusted man. Taking down the Law and Justice with associate Ionian, we are besides back to the old cases.
– It's temporary infirmary stuff. In particular, the most costly infirmary in Wrocław, which cost 95 million. It operated 193 days. It turned out that halls were built that were never utilized by the hospital. They cost 22 million and were donated to 1 of the entrepreneurs. In this case, there is besides a thread of mismanagement associated with the disposal of medical equipment for the amount of PLN 15 billion from the RARS. After the operation of the hospital, the voivode from PiS gave this equipment to various facilities without any contract. There's no sign of him. This is simply a violation of the State Treasury's interests.
What's fresh about this?
– From our announcement is already under investigation before the Regional Attorney's Office in Opole against the Lower Silesian Voivodeship, a close associate of Prime Minister Morawiecki, who was liable for these matters. Although the decisions were surely made in the Chancellery of the Prime Minister. Right on top.
Marta Kurzyńska spoke
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