In the Thursday edition of the "Shubartovich's Point of Vision" on the destiny of the war in Ukraine, the fresh policy of the White home and the safety of Europe discussed the manager of the Academic Centre for strategical Analysis Jerzy Marek Nowakowski and sociologist and publicist Mateusz Mazzini.
– Donald Trump's policy is fundamentally against our strategical interests. The biggest success of Poland was that Russia was excluded from the European dialogue, and at the minute Trump this Russia is almost forcefully drawing to this dialogue," noted the erstwhile Polish ambassador to Armenia.
War in Ukraine. Nowakowski: Putin uses Trump
When asked about Donald Trump's fresh talks with Vladimir Putin and advancement in peace negotiations on the war in Ukraine, Polsat News guests did not cover that they were skeptical to the effectiveness of the American leader's actions.
– Putin beats Trump in a way, and possibly not even so much beats Trump, but uses that Donald Trump has a beautiful akin approach to politics, like the leaders of these authoritarian, dictatorial countries said Jerzy Marek Nowakowski.
In the opinion of the erstwhile ambassador, the conversation of both leaders looked like a "Tiger Woods match with a good golf amateur".
– Trump acts in an intuitive, impulsive way, while Putin acts in a calculating way, having very detailed intellectual profiles of his interviewors prepared, he explained.
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Matthew Mazzini, on the another hand, pointed out that present no 1 can say how long peace negotiations will last. - I'd thin toward the thesis that It'll be longer than less. – he replied, explaining that Trump clearly works double-track.
– I would not regulation out the script that if there was no truce... Donald Trump will get bored of the issue of war, wave it, forget it, and say, "solve it as you like with a minimum U.S. commitment.", and in parallel to this it will slow collect sanctions on Russia, make joint investment vehicles – he warned.
“Trump is primarily a showman”
Jerzy Marek Nowakowski besides stressed in the programme that Trump is “primarily a showman”. – He's doing a show called "I'm making peace" – he argued.
In his opinion, Europe's only consequence to uncertain peace should now be its "rebuilding". At the same time, he pointed out that the suggestions of PiS politicians that leaning towards Europe means acting against NATO is simply a "speak".
It's not against NATO. Europe all wants NATO to exist," he said.
Mazzini pointed out that The war is now mostly propaganda.
– At this point, we request to seriously consider, not even specified a political declarative level, whether the US is inactive our ally or our opponent, but which circumstantial US actions lead to a real weakening of Europe's security, due to the fact that some of them lead - He warned me.
What future of Ukraine? ‘Low-intensity war’
The guests of Przemysław Szubartowicz besides talked about the destiny of Ukraine after a possible truce was concluded.
– War of low intensity. I think this is the future of the Ukrainian-Russian borderland. There's gonna be a truce, there's gonna be quite a few shootings, there's gonna be common accusations, and there's gonna be an escalation of tension to the point where Russia will be able to strike effectively said the erstwhile Polish Ambassador to Armenia.
Nowakowski besides pointed out that Ukraine will most likely gotta accept at least a part of its territory temporarily. However, if Trump had recognized Russian sovereignty over Crimea, it would have been "turn over the global table".
– I think we are very naive to presume that if Zelenski signs any peace agreement, then he will indeed have the deed, he will truly be able to tell the Ukrainians to halt fighting. I think it is profoundly improbable," noted Mateusz Mazzini.
In the end, Jerzy Marek Nowakowski pointed out that Poland should avoid first of all the usage by Americans to break the unity of Europe. The guests besides agreed that we could not politically afford to criticize Donald Trump and the US, but in parallel you gotta stand fast to realize that The speech of European speech policy will be broadcast by Merz and Macron.
