Crime without punishment. Interview with Ewa Stankiewicz Jørgensen

Ewa Stankiewicz: I remember the silence, the agitation, the request to be together. Shock that doesn't full realize what happened. These are the next waves of pain. And anxiety. It's like household erstwhile a loved 1 dies. erstwhile our Pope, the beloved Saint John Paul II died – Poles gathered in the streets at the vigil. I remember evenings and candlelights in people's hands. After the death of prof. Lech Kaczyński, the president of Poland – people would come to Krakowskie Przedmieście in Warsaw, under the presidential palace. The head of our State and 95 people key to our sovereignty have died. They were killed in Russia. Initially, there was a large silence in Krakowskie Przedmieście and close streets, though there were crowds. The scouts have set up a cross. Losing loved ones, emergency, asking what to do next. As a nation with a community of experiences, experiences, we besides wanted to comfort 1 another, strengthen 1 another, encourage 1 another with a presence. To be together. It's so hard to avoid pathetic words around here. You can see on the palm of your hand that the Nation is specified a bigger Family. If you despise her, you go astray.

Ewa Stankiewicz: The President, as head of state. Privately or directly, I had small contact with those who died. erstwhile I worked in Polish Radio in Paris – erstwhile I interviewed Lech Kaczyński in the early 1990s by telephone. Janusz Kurtyka, the president of the IPN, helped us scope the materials in the journalistic investigation concerning the death of Stanisław Pyjas, erstwhile Anna Ferens and I were making a documentary "Three Friends". Interestingly, both of these characters could be reached almost straight “from the street”. They were helpful, open and respectful.

I besides saw Thomas Merta for a while, but I don't truly remember. I met him closer – I can say that - after his death, erstwhile I became friends with his wife, Magda Merta. erstwhile I saw a file full of love notes on the notes he left her hidden at home. It's like a relation with individual over time. Like with Sławomir Skrzypk and Przemysław Gosiewski. The parents of Deputy Prime Minister Gosiewski got into my heart. Prime Minister Gosiewski was besides a descendant of a hetman who chased the Russian chaotic boar far east and to whom the Russian Tsar paid tribute.

In 2010, people who were the backbone of the Polish statehood, very active and effective, were killed during valuable activities. For example, Gen. Błasik, who was preparing a fresh training strategy for aviation adepts, wanted to truly improve Polish military aviation. All these actions have been discontinued.

The full command of the Polish army trained by NATO, Bronisław Komorowski replaced polytruds trained in Moscow. Komorowski six months before the tragedy – as the then talker of the Sejm – was trained to take power in case the president abruptly ran out. It has the superficiality of safandula – but on April 10 it behaved highly smoothly. I am talking about subjecting our country to Russian interests and influences after taking power.

Poland went back in improvement and lost much of its sovereignty after the 2010 bombing. In terms of the state – we lost our head and heart.

Ewa Stankiewicz: We are not just about memory, but above all about the justice and safety of the state. Crime without punishment is an invitation to another crime and the decay of evil. If we were to respond decently to the killing of the Polish President, possibly Putin's attack on Ukraine could be avoided. Just as Lech Kaczyński stopped Putin's assault on Georgia for a while. Furthermore, staying at different levels of power, offices and ministries of people who at least put the president of the Republic of Poland to death is simply a immense current threat to our State. It is not a substance of memory either, but a burning substance of our security. due to the fact that we've been in permanent danger since 2010.

Solidarni2010 brought a trial against Donald Tusk regarding national treason and failure to fulfil their duties. Serviceable justice Margaret Drewin made certain that he did not respond for his actions, denying in the justification of his media decision the statements of Donald Tusk. She committed a literal lie. We then put up posters with quotes of this lie and its image but neither Tusk nor Drewin always took responsibility, besides under the regulation of the Law and Justice.

As for Solidarnych2010, we inactive exist, we request justice, on the 10th day of the period we attend mass at the Warsaw Cathedral at 19.00 and then march under the presidential palace informing passersby through megaphones that this crime is waiting for settlement, and criminals stay unpunished. We invitation everyone to join us. all year, on April 10th, we organize a March with portraits of the victims of the assassination and look for those willing to carry portraits. We are publishing the 3rd edition of the anthology of Smolensk poems, we organize historical lectures of prof. Andrzej Nowak, we run the information portal solidarity2010.pl

Ewa Stankiewicz: It is definitely possible to find clearly the causes and course of the disintegration of the aircraft. Poland has evidence. Only they drown in the mud of authoritative lies and Putinian propaganda. photograph documentation of blasting curls – fingerprints of explosions, documentation of debris field without crater, with respective tens of thousands of scattered wreck fragments. photograph documentation of left passenger doors separated and driven into the ground 1 metre deep. Documentation of human brain tissue sucked inside the door structure. The bare bodies of the victims. This evidence is adequate to technically find the origin and course of the plane's disintegration.

After the tragedy, we had to deal with activities that match cover-up, sabotage, and deliberate falsification of an investigation to fertilize a lying Russian version of events. And Tusk played a decisive function here. Starting from giving evidence to Putin and giving up Poland's rights under the 1993 agreement – which gave Poland access to evidence on an equal basis with Russia. He is liable for incapacitating Polish peculiar services and investigation commission in the investigation into the truth.

But questions about the origin of death of the victims and the decay of the aircraft, to which we have well documented answers – are only a method part of the study. The decision chain that led to the assassination, including the function played by Donald Tusk, was never thoroughly explored.

Ewa Stankiewicz: My husband is an inventor, his patents were utilized in the manufacture by, among others, giant companies like American AT&T. He is an engineer specialising in the field utilized in the aviation crash investigation. He besides completed a second specialization – a full five-year survey of aviation crash studies at 1 of the top 2 centres in the planet in this field – at the University of Cranfield, England. He started working on what happened in Smolensk by verifying the calculations contained in the MAK study – and there he did not agree.

During the work of the subcommittee, it was clear that the aircraft was disintegrated in the air as a consequence of a series of explosions, starting with an detonation in the left wing through a series of explosions along the full body of the aircraft with epicenters spread all 10 frames. The strongest explosions occurred erstwhile the plane was just above the ground. We besides know that it was not a fuel detonation that had a completely different characteristics. The detonation of fuel has a much lower velocity than the detonation of materials utilized in the military or industry, hence it leaves another traces.

Not only do I believe that more could have been done during the time of the Law and Justice. I think you should have. And that for this crime of omission we all pay today. A immense price. Unrecoverable sin – it will prove to be after the upcoming elections – or at all to be reversed. As far as Smolensk is concerned, it has never been systematically planned to choice the right squad – a serious investigation. And any of the work was just blocked.

I remember Jan Gosiewski – the father of the deputy prime minister who died in Smolensk. I interviewed him. It was 2020 or a small later. Under the Law and Justice. I asked what did he anticipate from the Polish authorities about the Smolensk investigation? He answered with 1 word: efficiency! He was very upset and concerned. due to the fact that he was aware of the disastrous effect of the omission on national security. Despite these brakes and, to put it mildly, amateurism, with the large effort of individual people, has managed to find a lot. But this was mostly against the prevailing conditions.

In the state and social dimension, erstwhile the Law and Justice came to power, much good happened. This was after the cataclysm of the governments of the PO, which I believe is the arm of the post of Stasi, the Russian-German services, aimed at looting property. And it's over. But the Smolensk case inactive felt the long arm of Moscow. Unfortunately.

Ewa Stankiewicz: Unpunished Putin, unpunished Tusk. Those who come to the fact are wanted. So perverse. Present for communes and later in our public life for years. The only convicted in the case of the killing of Stanisław Pyjas by the communist services was Bronisław Wildstein, who demanded the truth. Not UB-cy, not informer Maleshka...

So besides here it is possible that those who have come to the fact will be persecuted. Those whose investigation can't be fooled. This would not have been possible if a fewer years ago the criminals had been held accountable. The price of weakness, fear of politicians on the right side and deficiency of awareness about gangsters is presently the measurable suffering of many people – the parent of a sick kid locked up for 2 months in prison, the death of a 66-year-old woman, the fear of honest people who performed their duties for the state.

Good judges and prosecutors who are presently facing the device of lawlessness of Bodnar's crew deserve large respect. But the situation is catastrophic. In these 8 years, although much has been done, the state and democracy have not been effectively secured. I hope we're not a dismemberment generation. That would be very bad for us.

Ewa Stankiewicz: Putin took it. This opened the way for Europe's economical and military conquest. Prof. Lech Kaczyński delayed this conquest by standing in the way of Putin. In the fight against prof. Lech Kaczyński, the president of Poland – he was assisted by Putin Donald Tusk and a subordinate state apparatus. The German authorities and the then Putin European Union ruled Lech Kaczyński for “anti-Russianity”. The cash flow went to Putin after the gas pipeline was built. Unfortunately, these times can come back quickly, it's already being prepared. As shortly as the EU completely submits to Berlin, Germany will immediately bring it to Russia. At the moment, a legislative conflict is underway to guarantee that individual countries cannot break out and defend sovereignty.

A large part of the leaders – political opponents Donald Tusk – were eliminated in Smolensk. So who did? Putin and Tusk, German Chancellor. German “businessmen” active in gas trade with Russia.

Ewa Stankiewicz: The wound will not heal until it is officially established and confirmed by the authorities of the State the facts are true. Just like they don't know the peace of those who were killed by a loved one, and the perpetrator of the crime has not been punished. Poles share not Smolensk's subject, but a lie. Smolenian lie. Cruel, at first glance impossible, contrary to discipline and common sense. But punished with “crazyness”, with consequences in social and professional life. The face of this lie is Putin and Tusk.

Ewa Stankiewicz: The tragedy is that in our country, the origin of the death of the Polish president in Russia is simply a question of religion and individual beliefs, not a question of cognition acquired as a consequence of an efficient, honest and professional investigation. This shows the disaster of the state's structures and the inefficiency of the key issues that find its safety. My husband has repeatedly invited the another organization to a method debate. "Specialists" girdering Russian version either ignored or reiterated at the last minute. That besides shows something.

Kornel Morawiecki was a legend of freedom. I remember his beautiful beginning speech as Marshal Senior. He impressed me with his independency of spirit and sense of humor. And that's the effectiveness of listening to the stories of Solidarity Fighting. I can talk here in this paper, mostly thanks to it.

My last gathering with Kornel besides hit Smolensk. He called erstwhile and found out he was in the hospital. I was at the same infirmary visiting someone. I approached him. I had on me – I can't remember – whether a shorthand of technological materials from the Smolensk Conference or the Subcommittee method Report. I left it for him. I don't know if he looked into it. He was sick already. It was shortly before he died. He was a physicist. And discipline is simply a good plane to find the reality. Kornel was a wonderfully interesting man.

Smolensk was either lied or ridiculed. And it is inactive ahead of us to get the victims who died there – as well as our full country – out of that Russian mud.

Ewa Stankiewicz: Thank you! For this paper as a forum of words, for your efforts in conducting it, for the level of free speech and for the independency of thought.

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