“This is no longer possible”, he says of "the current way of managing the state" co-chairing the organization together Adrian Zandberg. In the program "Politic WF with a Guest" he emphasizes that he wants to make it a language in weight after the next elections. “What we owe to Tusk and Kaczyński is pathology,” he adds.
Simple answers to hard problems? - in conversation with Piotr Witwicki and Marcin Fijołek Adrian Zandberg responds to the allegation that he is like "Korwin-Mikke in the 1990s."who is easy criticized by the Council of Ministers from a comfortable non-governmental couch.
It speaks of "the crisis of the current way of managing the state". - It was a large deal for us. European Union, and politics came down to these regular pushing, casting State Treasury companies and going to publicist programs - notes the politician.
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As he emphasizes, "this is no longer possible." - It's not like Brussels is gonna do this for us. We are talking about large things that are to be done here, now, in Poland, for which we cannot wait - he adds.
He points out that he is simply a realist and points out that "if we don't start dealing with these things, Poland will get into serious trouble".
Among the most crucial are the construction of subsequent atomic blocks, the launch of major investments and financing of health, discipline and research.
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- I'm sorry. If we're talking about the ability to push solutions, it's a mathematically very simple task. Politics counts to 231. That's all it takes in parliament to have a majority, he points out.
As he adds, "we want the club to follow the next election Together he was essential for most due to the fact that if he is not, then there are no cards to play".
- I'm sorry. I say this from the experience of talking about the establishment of this government - he stresses. We warned 2 years ago that these clouds are gathering over Poland. There was no political agreement to cut developers' privileges to harm those who are very rich pensioners, to change the wellness situation and to cut these pathologies between the private and public sectors - he explains.
In his opinion, political camps in Poland may look completely different in 2 years. “I am looking at what is happening under the carpet in the PiS, that is simply a terrible hatred,” he stresses.
- I'm sorry. I'm not certain it'll hold. Especially if time is yet over individual reign of Jarosław Kaczyński. I think a akin communicative is besides on the another side, says Zandberg. - How Donald Tusk It will be gone, then I have no belief that this construction will last for years - says Witwicki and Fijołka.
When asked if Together leaves open gates to work with both camps he says, "we want a parliamentary club that depends on the majority to be able to bring matters to fruition." "Our participation in governments is part of saying goodbye to the Polish political scene personally and to Mr Tusk, and to Mr Kaczyński. Because that's enough. - adds.
- I'm sorry. The individual conflict of these 2 gentlemen Poland already costs besides much. And adequate is adequate - he emphasizes.
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He adds, "I believe this form political conflict, which we owe in Poland to Tusk and Kaczyński, is pathology".
- I'm sorry. This is pathology., which has led us to a place where political parties sit so profoundly in this trench that it is impossible to make joint decisions on matters that will be implemented for 10 or 12 years - he explains.
- I'm sorry. I reassure voters Donald TuskThat Together will not enter the government of Jarosław Kaczyński. I reassure voters Jarosław KaczyńskiThat together he would not enter the Donald Tusk government. Now I would very much like us to yet be in a place where we can halt talking about Donald Tusk, Jarosław Kaczyński - he emphasizes.
- I'm sorry. And I truly think that the only way to do this is to have individual in Parliament who depends on the majority and reports: "gentlemen, retire." - adds.
Zandberg rules out the alliance. "Don't be in specified a government"
As 1 of the most crucial challenges facing the Together Party, points to Senior voters. - We have a wall to break. He is mostly of a generational character - he says. “This is the work we gotta do for the next 2 years,” he stresses.
When asked about a possible re-alignment with fresh Left Zandberg replies, "The fresh Left's colleagues and colleagues have chosen to stay for good and bad with Donald Tuski".
- I'm sorry. I think You shouldn't be in government., who tells budget workers, "You're going to be poor," who tells hundreds of thousands of patients that they're going to grow queues to a doctor," he explains.
However, he noted that in the ranks New Left "there are quite a few people who besides endure erstwhile they look at what this government is doing." - But the fact is... The management of the fresh Left chose its way with Tusk - added.
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- I'm sorry. They chose their coalition. The coalition is actually Donald Tusk.. I hear more and more frequently on the government side specified ideas that the only way for this squad to defend itself is to focus all the forces of the current government in 1 block and go on 1 list. And it's most likely paradoxically rational for them now. But I guess there'll be people who won't find themselves in it. We together We'll be open to those people. - stated.
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